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by Jusme
Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:01 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Parker County Deputy Shot in Foot
Replies: 38
Views: 12114

Re: Parker County Deputy Shot in Foot

E.Marquez wrote: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:54 am
Gator Guy wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:59 am
Deputy Turner also said the gunman took off as he crawled back to his cruiser to call for help.
IANAL but it seems like a false statement about a shooting would taint any testimony the deputy ever gave in court, as well as any affidavits he signed to support search warrants.

There’s no word on if Deputy Turner, who has been with the department for two years, will face disciplinary action.
He should be fired. If not, it calls into question the honesty and integrity of the Sheriff and his entire department.
Was thinking on this and I suppose, its possible, in the heat of the moment...and it being I assume a small caliber weapon (low recoil) with Adrenalin already pumping, movement though brush, over fences, branches & grass pulling on, poking, dragging on feet and legs its possible he did not understand or process the "shot" came from his own gun in an ankle holster. The shot sounded muffled and could have been hard to perceive where it came from.

All just possibilities of course.. but I can say for certain.... in a some what similar situations (stress, unknowns, looking for bad guys , physical exertion)... processing and understanding where that first shot came from is often disorientating and difficult to pinpoint. Im not guessing or theorizing, its practical experience I make that statement from.
Couple that with his likely assumption the shot came from "the bad guy" and his focus is outward, trying to ID the shooter..the thought his foot was shot from his own BUG likely a very distant consideration.

Just food for thought, nothing would excuse lying on a report , but I can see a way to an inaccurate initial report.

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I can see how, creeping up on a deer blind, in the dark, where you have been informed, an armed suspect is located, when you suddenly hear a shot, feel, the shot hit you in the foot, return fire, at the deer blind believing you had been shot at. I don't think the deputy, would have returned fire, if he believed, his BUG, was what shot him. Adrenaline, blanks the mind, and if he believed, he had been fired upon, that would be all that was on his mind, causing him to state that, to investigators.
I'm still, not sure why anyone, would go into that situation without back up. A report of a tresspasser, illegally hunting, would indicate, that the suspect was armed. The deputy, can't see, without a flashlight, giving any potential BG, the tactical advantage. There was no reason, for the deputy, to make that approach, alone. JMHO
by Jusme
Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Parker County Deputy Shot in Foot
Replies: 38
Views: 12114

Re: Parker County Deputy Shot in Foot

surprise_i'm_armed wrote: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:14 am IIRC, the Parker County SO Chief stated that "this is a known problem with that model of gun, which I will not disclose."

Well, if that is so, why was the LEO using it as a BUG?

Monday morning QB : next time tuck your BUG into your vest.

SIA
With all due respect, most Sheriffs, are not gun experts. Very often, they only rely on information from others. If such a gun existed, that had a history, of ND, simply by being carried, near the ankle, I'm sure there would be numerous reports, and manufacturing recalls. I don't know what happened, but, it sounds like, as others, have stated, that the holster, was not of rigid, construction, and in the process, of sneaking up, on a deer blind, in the dark, a tree branch, or other object, came in contact with the trigger, causing it to fire. Simply putting a foot down,
into some brush, generates, more than enough, weight, to pull even heavy triggers. As a LEO, I carried, a Taurus model 85, in an ankle holsters, but, it was a leather holster, which completely covered the trigger. JMHO
by Jusme
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:02 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Parker County Deputy Shot in Foot
Replies: 38
Views: 12114

Re: Parker County Deputy Shot in Foot

Isn't that type of call, usually handled by game wardens? Are Parker County Deputies, trained, in Texas game laws? They are evidently, not trained, in how to prevent negligent discharges, from guns in ankle holsters, while creeping through, the woods, looking for armed tresspassers, with no back up. JMHO

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