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by Jusme
Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:59 am
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Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

Pariah3j wrote:I've heard (never seen the law/statute to back it up, so I've always taken it with a grain of salt) that unmarked peace officer vehicles weren't allowed to make traffic stops?


They can, some are equipped with lights behind the grill, and behind the rearview mirror, but not stopping for an unmarked car will usually not result in an evading charge. Most of the time, when I was A LEO. unmarked cars, would follow someone they wanted to stop, and call for a marked patrol unit. I made several stops for undercover units, Rangers, etc.
by Jusme
Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:24 pm
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Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
DEB wrote:I personally don't blame the Ranger. If folks would keep their hands to themselves, don't cuss out others, don't be flipping them off, then probably most of all problems would be corrected. I have been in the car with my wife and grandchildren and people show off their anger. They know that I cannot respond. I believe there was a reason why they say the Old West was polite. Someone is mad enough to flip someone off or cuss them, they probably are mad enough to physically harm them. Leave folks be, is my take.
I agree that we should all be civil, and we shouldn't react with anger in any way, including flipping people off. But I disagree with you that it is OK to pull a gun on someone who flips me off. I have been flipped off (and otherwise insulted) many times over my life, but I have fortunately had enough maturity to not pull a gun in response. Ever.



:iagree:

I have survived being flipped off, cussed at, and criticized, and never had to resort to deadly force. Those who engage in such behavior, are not worth my time, so any response on my part, is taking time away from me and mine. Besides, a friendly wave, seems to put people at a disadvantage, since their actions don't cause an escalating reaction from me. JMHO
by Jusme
Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:24 pm
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Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

flechero wrote:Something in the reporting is off, I think. (usually is these days)

I won't be so quick to condemn the Ranger. I've seen enough hot heads in traffic to know that most people that flip the bird and swerve aggressively wouldn't bat an eye to lie about the details to stay out of trouble or maliciously get another in trouble.

Lets see..... an admitted hot head (cursing, screaming and exhibiting road rage) and a Tx Ranger in word vs. word. I'll lean towards the side of the Ranger in this one until more evidence is presented, thank you. :tiphat:

Yeah, I would normally agree, but the only incriminating evidence comes from his supervisor, who stated that the Ranger was out of line. They usually won't release a statement, until they have enough evidence.
by Jusme
Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:19 pm
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Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

DEB wrote:I personally don't blame the Ranger. If folks would keep their hands to themselves, don't cuss out others, don't be flipping them off, then probably most of all problems would be corrected. I have been in the car with my wife and grandchildren and people show off their anger. They know that I cannot respond. I believe there was a reason why they say the Old West was polite. Someone is mad enough to flip someone off or cuss them, they probably are mad enough to physically harm them. Leave folks be, is my take.

When I was a LEO, we were trained that we could not be offended. While obscene gestures are considered disorderly conduct, if the officer is the only one who sees it, and there is no complainant, it's no harm no foul. If I had reacted, to every gesture, or insult directed towards me, as a LEO, I would not have had a job, very long. Since most Rangers drive, unmarked vehicles, and wear no uniform, it's very possible the guy was unaware that he was showing his stupidity, and ill manners to a LEO, but even so, the Ranger, should not have reacted in that manner. If there was another violation, to pull the guy over, then I can understand the stop. But unless there was a threat to his safety, he was out of line, by drawing his gun. Every Ranger I have been associated with, always displayed the utmost in professionalism, and decorum, and I have the highest respect for the job they do. But as they say about one bad apple...
by Jusme
Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:50 am
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Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

treadlightly wrote:Cordell Walker would have handled that differently. The driver would have learned to keep his finger in his pocket and the wayward Ranger would have ended up helping a bunch of kids at risk. The lady DA would have been victim of overacting that would make Shatner blush, but you just can't help some people.

His finger would have simply shriveled up and fallen off, if that had been Ranger Walker!! :biggrinjester:

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