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JustSomeOldGuy wrote:

canvasbck wrote: I would be pretty peeved at Harley Davidson if they were found to be backing legislation that imposed a tax on all motorcycles not built in Missouri, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania.

You see where I'm going there....

How do you feel about the same thing by Executive Order? You only missed it by 34 years.
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/04/02/busin ... ycles.html

Those are tariffs on imported bikes, not those made in other states.

The information posted regarding RRA and SA, looks pretty damning. Especially since the proposed legislation, would exempt them from the law. While I agree, that we may not be able to boycott, every corporation that we disagree with politically, I think that when a company appears to have helped, if only indirectly, with the restriction of 2A rights, and they rely directly on that right for their livelihood, we can and should stand up and at least hold them accountable.

They may do the right thing, and begin a concerted effort to defeat the legislation, disentangle themselves from the lobbying group they formed, issue apologies to anyone who has been hurt by this proposed legislation, then work more diligently towards removing these left wing reps from the legislature, then they can possibly redeem themselves. But they have dug themselves a deep hole, that will take a lot of time and energy on their part to crawl out of. JMHO

MechAg94 wrote:https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/05/0 ... nsing-act/
Put Away The Pitchforks: Springfield Armory & Rock River Arms Did NOT Sell Out Gun Owners
I think this has excerpts from SA and RRA press releases late yesterday.

I won't say never simply because companies can change. I have bought S&W products since 2000 and they sold out gun owners in a much, much bigger way during the Clinton Presidency. Based on press releases I saw later yesterday, SA and RRA seem to be reacting and trying to fix this. I'll wait and see what happens.

I have no problem with holding gun manufacturers to account, but I think we should give them a chance to fix it rather than dump them immediately.

I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but it is hard to believe that they are so out of touch, with the lobbying group that they are solely responsible for, that political contributions, to anti gun legislators, as well as, whether or not the group, opposes, or supports specific legislation, went unnoticed. That argument sounds like it came from the HRC campaign. JMHO

ninjabread wrote:

Jusme wrote:If these manufacturers really cared about the 2A, they would all move to places like Texas, where they could make anything they wanted, and refuse to make State compliant firearms for States that restrict rights.

They're better off moving to a state where the Mossy Shockwave is legal and people who jump through circus hoops to get a license can carry in an amusement park, etc.

JMHO

Maybe my view is somewhat skewed by the fact that I have lived here for the last 56 years( all my life), but, while the rest of the nation still views Texas as the wild west, and the pioneer in gun rights, I know that for the majority of my life, Texas was trapped in the Democratic headlock of gun restrictions for years. We have only had the freedom to carry handguns for a little over 20 years. That was only contingent upon obtaining a license, and agreeing to only carry, where those who make the rules said it was ok.
We have made great strides in the last 20 years, but we still have a long way to go.
The fact that a manufacturer, has somehow made a firearm, that the BATFE, has approved for sale, without Federal government stamping, that the State of Texas hasn't approved yet, does not automatically mean we are back in the most restrictive time in our history.
We are now living in what I call the golden age of gun rights in this State. There are so many people who moved here from other states, most of them more restrictive than Texas, who are so impatient, or so militant, that they feel they can denigrate the progress we have made, and demand instant changes, without understanding the history, or the progress that has been made, despite the fact that we are only 3 governors away from one who vetoed Concealed Carry.

While I will confess, Texas is not where I want it to be in regards to gun rights, I know how far we have come in my lifetime, and so I feel justified in my criticism of other states, who are moving in the opposite direction. JMHO

I have never understood why so many manufacturers continue to keep their manufacturing, sales, and distribution in States that continually restrict rights. Magpul moved out of Colorado, and only after they got a huge government contract, did Colorado realize their stupidity.
If these manufacturers really cared about the 2A, they would all move to places like Texas, where they could make anything they wanted, and refuse to make State compliant firearms for States that restrict rights.
We are the voice that can send a message, and refuse to purchase guns from companies who cave to States who want to wrest control, but still allow manufacturers to sell whatever they want to places who respect our rights. Their profits are directly reliant upon us.
JMHO