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by Jusme
Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:21 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)
Replies: 55
Views: 15389

Re: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)

Rafe wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:08 pm Here's an idea. Jonathan Swift might call it "a modest proposal." President Biden is printing money faster than any president in history. He and Kamala want to send $800 billion of your tax dollars to Central America to help fix the "root causes" of illegal immigration. On guns, though, the plan is not to spend money but to restrict your rights and make honest, law-abiding citizens into criminals by legislation.

So... How about we not send all those billions to Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador--where they will be appreciated by the respective governmental officials, but do absolutely zip to quell illegal immigration to the U.S.--and instead earmark a measly $50 billion for a national firearms training initiative? Help us correctly exercise a right that's already enshrined in the Constitution. Make permitless carry available to anyone who is legally able to own a gun, and then leverage the many thousands of concealed carry and NRA certified trainers nationwide to offer government-paid, free-to-the public education. Optional, but free. And start 'em young...like our ancestors used to do before there were population centers densely packed with several millions of people...you know, like parents did back before there was even the term "mass shooting." School programs; bring back Eddie the Eagle into elementary schools; reintroduce airgun and NRA competitions in middle- and high-schools; foster sport shooters and our next Olympians.

Offer a structured plan nationwide with multiple courses around firearm safety, firearm maintenance; firearm use and administrative handling; the practicalities and responsibilities of carrying a firearm; self-defense inside and outside the home; the law of defensive use of firearms, etc. The instructors and the ranges bill the federal government for approved courses. Outside of school settings, all students over the age of 18 welcome free of charge (they provide, rent, or pay for firearms and ammunition, of course) provided they are legally eligible to use/own a firearm and, say, pass an NICS check first. Work a deal with IDPA, USPSA, and other competitive shooting organizations to provide memberships billed to the government but free to the public.

Instructors would get more work than ever before, and in a relatively short period of time we would develop millions more honest, law-abiding citizens who have a much higher level of training and awareness about firearms. We've already--going by NICS numbers alone--seen gun sales shatter all-time records almost month-over-month. Let's train 'em up, not criminalize 'em! There would still be gang violence, which accounts for the large majority of shootings, but the gangs and the felons and the terrorists would start to learn, of the 197 million people in the U.S. over 21 years of age, that, say, one in every 7 or 8 has had firearms training and may be carrying. You want a crime deterrent and a mass shooting deterrent? There you go. Reduce target-rich, low-threat environments. There's a reason there are no mass shootings at busy gun ranges.

That's a national gun program I could get behind.

Exactly this!!

While I know it’s a pipe dream, and any government run program, is rife for corruption, I had this exact thought, yesterday. One problem I see, is that the government, would want an accounting of everyone trained. Which would amount to a gun registry list, whether the trainees actually own a gun or not. If we could, through some magic time of the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches being a super majority, of true Constitutionalists, and got something like this pushed through, it would quickly be seized upon when that majority, is no longer there. JMHO
by Jusme
Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:06 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)
Replies: 55
Views: 15389

Re: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)

I understand the views of those both, in favor of, and those opposed to Constitutional carry. ( Well not those who simply don’t believe Americans should be armed under any circumstance) I too have seen a lot of people who should not be turned loose with a gun, due to lack of any training. However, I am vehemently opposed to mandated training to exercise their 2A right. Simply because there is no government mandated training to exercise any other Constitutional right.
When the Constitution was ratified, it was taken for granted, that parents, would teach their children, how to use firearms. With the breakdown of the family unit, the urbanization, of the majority of the population, and decades of vilifying gun ownership, that “home training” doesn’t exist.
Now that more people are looking to be responsible for their own safety, their is a huge gap, in knowledge about the safe utilization of firearms.
I know that all members here have done a lot to help train their own family members, obtain training for themselves, and continue, to maintain at least a modicum of proficiency.

There will always be those who do none of these things, whether they are LTC holders or not. But there are also a lot of people who vote without doing any research into the candidates. People who exercise their right of free speech to espouse things that are abhorrent to decent people.
Some will say that speaking, and voting never caused a death, but the survivors of the Holocaust, or even family members of those killed in Viet Nam, may disagree.

My point is, we can hope and pray that everyone will exercise their rights responsibly, but we cannot withhold them, due to those who do not do so. JMHO

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