Don't be alarmed, there was no mention of actual terrorists,the entire exhibit was about rendition, the CIA, and how the UK government put people under surveillance.
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- Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:30 am
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Re: London Bridge: Another terror attack
Oh, and in the Imperial War Museum, there was this exhibit (see pic.) "Edmund Clark: War of Terror" exhibit.
Don't be alarmed, there was no mention of actual terrorists,the entire exhibit was about rendition, the CIA, and how the UK government put people under surveillance.
Don't be alarmed, there was no mention of actual terrorists,the entire exhibit was about rendition, the CIA, and how the UK government put people under surveillance.
- Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:07 am
- Forum: The Crime Blotter
- Topic: London Bridge: Another terror attack
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Re: London Bridge: Another terror attack
So, I landed in London Friday and went sightseeing yesterday. I traveresed about nine miles in the central city, including London bridge and the market area where the rampage occurred (five or six hours before it happened. The hotel kindly called me at 11AM this morning to make sure I was ok, lol.
1. European counter terrorism seems to focus on what worked 20 years ago. I had a heck of a time finding a garbage can for my water bottle, for instance (I presume their removal was due to the IRA).
2. I saw police presence TWICE in close to nine hours of walking in the city. One of these was a small van of coppers getting takeaway within .25 mile of the incident. The other wasn't even police proper, but empty police vans stashed next to the Waterloo tube station. That was it.
3. Sadly, while walking across Black Friar's bridge, I noticed that there were no barriers of any sort between the roadway and the crowded pedestrian walkways. Everyone was on the east? side of the bridge to better capture pics of the Tower of London and the bridge, so I went on the opposite side away from the crowd (more out of annoyance than anti-terrorism spidey sense). The lack of barriers was the same on the three or four bridges I crossed during the day.
4. The *total* lack of reaction by people a mile away was stunning. I got the alert on my watch from FoxNews and the DailyMail a few beers into the night. Even after it was clear that most people had seen the news (no TVs in the bar) in one way or another, nobody did *anything.* When I say "do anything," I mean nobody talked about it, nobody called their pals, they just continued on smoking (outside), drinking, and making plans with people on the phone. I asked about this ~90 minutes after the incident, and got a limp wristed line about, "if we don't carry on the terrorists win." OK, I get the supposed British stiff upper lip, but it was blase beyond belief.
5. During the day, that area of the London Bridge market area was oddly enough more Asian (Indian, Chinese, etc.) than white. There were better markets/areas to hit if you were looking for infidels.
6. One of the three biggest news stories of the day on the web over here is the "disgusting and shameful" implementation of surge pricing on Uber. Of course, this happens automatically, and was almost immediately suspended. Yet another stunning lack of economic sense on behalf of the press.
7. It was awesome that they dropped the SAS on the bridge in the middle of the city :)
1. European counter terrorism seems to focus on what worked 20 years ago. I had a heck of a time finding a garbage can for my water bottle, for instance (I presume their removal was due to the IRA).
2. I saw police presence TWICE in close to nine hours of walking in the city. One of these was a small van of coppers getting takeaway within .25 mile of the incident. The other wasn't even police proper, but empty police vans stashed next to the Waterloo tube station. That was it.
3. Sadly, while walking across Black Friar's bridge, I noticed that there were no barriers of any sort between the roadway and the crowded pedestrian walkways. Everyone was on the east? side of the bridge to better capture pics of the Tower of London and the bridge, so I went on the opposite side away from the crowd (more out of annoyance than anti-terrorism spidey sense). The lack of barriers was the same on the three or four bridges I crossed during the day.
4. The *total* lack of reaction by people a mile away was stunning. I got the alert on my watch from FoxNews and the DailyMail a few beers into the night. Even after it was clear that most people had seen the news (no TVs in the bar) in one way or another, nobody did *anything.* When I say "do anything," I mean nobody talked about it, nobody called their pals, they just continued on smoking (outside), drinking, and making plans with people on the phone. I asked about this ~90 minutes after the incident, and got a limp wristed line about, "if we don't carry on the terrorists win." OK, I get the supposed British stiff upper lip, but it was blase beyond belief.
5. During the day, that area of the London Bridge market area was oddly enough more Asian (Indian, Chinese, etc.) than white. There were better markets/areas to hit if you were looking for infidels.
6. One of the three biggest news stories of the day on the web over here is the "disgusting and shameful" implementation of surge pricing on Uber. Of course, this happens automatically, and was almost immediately suspended. Yet another stunning lack of economic sense on behalf of the press.
7. It was awesome that they dropped the SAS on the bridge in the middle of the city :)