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by Soccerdad1995
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Licensed carry at my apartment complex
Replies: 24
Views: 9785

Re: Licensed carry at my apartment complex

Keith B wrote:
Pritchical wrote:
ninjabread wrote:Take a first aid class and then ignore the 30.06 signs. :txflag:
I like this idea, for many reasons. But doesn't the law say that the volunteer has to be 'on duty' to carry past the sign?
Nope.
TPC 30.06/30.07
(f) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the license holder is volunteer emergency services personnel, as defined by Section 46.01.
30.05 requires you to be performing the duties.

and
46.01: (18) “Volunteer emergency services personnel” includes a volunteer firefighter;
an emergency medical services volunteer as defined by Section 773.003, Health
and Safety Code; and any individual who, as a volunteer, provides services for
the benefit of the general public during emergency situations
. The term does
not include a peace officer or reserve law enforcement officer, as those terms
are defined by Section 1701.001, Occupations Code, who is performing law
enforcement duties.
If you are a ham radio operator and member of ARES or RACES, SKYWARN spotter, etc, you would also qualify.
As written it is a fairly sweeping exemption. I performed services for the benefit of the general public during a recent emergency situation (Hurricane Harvey), and am willing and able to do so for any future emergency situations. All of this is on a volunteer basis. So I should easily qualify.

That said, in court, I would expect that we might litigate around the exact definition of the words "services", "general public", and to a lesser degree "emergency situations". If necessary, I could provide witnesses who would testify to my long history of performing such services during winter power outages when I lived in colder climates as well as the aforementioned recent services during Harvey. It all depends on how far a DA is willing to go to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I do not meet the exception so they can collect their $200 fine.
by Soccerdad1995
Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:59 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Licensed carry at my apartment complex
Replies: 24
Views: 9785

Re: Licensed carry at my apartment complex

SIGFan43 wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:I can think of some options. Maybe one of these might work?

1. Pay your rent a week early (either using the drop box or mail). Then call and confirm that they have received payment a few days before it is due.

2. Get yourself a Sub-2000 or similar and carry that in a bag while you are in the office (if you care about being discreet).

3. See if you meet the criteria as a "Volunteer Emergency Services Personnel", in which case you could walk past the 30.06 sign.

4. Ask one of your neighbors to carry your check in when they drop theirs off.

5. Continue to ask the apartment manager to meet you on the porch. Further demonstrating the absurdity of the 30.06 signage (your gun apparently only becomes dangerous when it crosses the threshold into the building).

6. Just open carry a slung AR when you drop off your check (you did say the manager is against the 30.06 signage, right).

7. Ask the manager to meet you for coffee once a month and give her the rent check then. Better yet, invite her along on a trip to the range. This works better if you aren't living with a SO, but if you are then just have your SO drop off the rent check.

There are a myriad of other options, but I think you get the idea.
I do have a walking partner later in the afternoons, and she will carry my check inside with hers while I wait on the porch. The office manager told me the signs were not coming down, even after legal review following the south Texas church shooting. She told me their insurance company rejected the signs coming down. It baffles me how an insurance company thinks it's okay to have the room full of bullet holes and injured tenants, but not okay for a law-abiding licensed gun owner to be present during that event.
By this logic, they should also ban LEO's from the premises. After all if "guns = problems" regardless of who has the gun, then you definitely don't want any LEO's there. Just let residents fight off home invaders using baseball bats and cast iron skillets. After all, that works well in cartoons.
by Soccerdad1995
Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:40 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Licensed carry at my apartment complex
Replies: 24
Views: 9785

Re: Licensed carry at my apartment complex

I can think of some options. Maybe one of these might work?

1. Pay your rent a week early (either using the drop box or mail). Then call and confirm that they have received payment a few days before it is due.

2. Get yourself a Sub-2000 or similar and carry that in a bag while you are in the office (if you care about being discreet).

3. See if you meet the criteria as a "Volunteer Emergency Services Personnel", in which case you could walk past the 30.06 sign.

4. Ask one of your neighbors to carry your check in when they drop theirs off.

5. Continue to ask the apartment manager to meet you on the porch. Further demonstrating the absurdity of the 30.06 signage (your gun apparently only becomes dangerous when it crosses the threshold into the building).

6. Just open carry a slung AR when you drop off your check (you did say the manager is against the 30.06 signage, right).

7. Ask the manager to meet you for coffee once a month and give her the rent check then. Better yet, invite her along on a trip to the range. This works better if you aren't living with a SO, but if you are then just have your SO drop off the rent check.

There are a myriad of other options, but I think you get the idea.

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