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by Soccerdad1995
Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:12 pm
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Topic: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)
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Re: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)

Right now, a person without a LTC (who can legally own a firearm) can carry in their house / property. They can carry between their house and their vehicle. They can carry between their vehicle and their place of work if their boss is good with it, and if the boss says no, then both licensed and unlicensed cannot carry there. They can carry from their car to a hotel room, and back. The unlicensed person can carry from their car to the range, and back to their car.

I'd argue that this bill would really add at most 5-10% additional carry opportunities (by time) for unlicensed individuals. So if we are really worried about unlicensed people not knowing how to be safe with guns, we should be worried about that right now.
by Soccerdad1995
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:41 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)
Replies: 55
Views: 15350

Re: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)

TxRVer wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:47 am
chasfm11 wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:44 pm
Jusme wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:06 am
There will always be those who do none of these things, whether they are LTC holders or not. But there are also a lot of people who vote without doing any research into the candidates. People who exercise their right of free speech to espouse things that are abhorrent to decent people.

My point is, we can hope and pray that everyone will exercise their rights responsibly, but we cannot withhold them, due to those who do not do so. JMHO
:iagree: This. I work elections and I cringe at how unprepared people are to vote when they show up at the polls. I would really like to sent them home to do some more homework. But they are exercising their right to cast a ballot and neither I nor anyone like me should stand in their way. I feel the same about firearms.
They can do more damage with a vote than with a gun.
:iagree:

It's really difficult to overthrow our entire system of government, even with alot of armed people. But the libs may just be able to do that with the results of the last election.
by Soccerdad1995
Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:00 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)
Replies: 55
Views: 15350

Re: Distressed about lack of Constitutional Carry Support (Long)

cirus wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:25 pm
ScottDLS wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:08 pm
cirus wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:44 pm
ScottDLS wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:29 pm It's already been done. Check out the web page of the group who shall not be named (Voldemort). The outcome is they ask you to leave, and you either leave or get arrested. The point is, permitless carry for long guns already exists in Texas. A previous post said "go all the way and let you carry an AR-15". Well you already can (legally) carry long guns (and SBR's, and machineguns, and short shotguns) open or concealed and nothing has happened. Why not handguns like the other 24 states?
Machine guns? :smilelol5: Full autos are illegal without a license. I wanna see you carry a SAW into Walmart :smilelol5: Like you say you will be asked to leave or be arrested so at best all you might be able to do is walk down the street with it. Won't be able to enter any business so basically you can't carry it anywhere.
Machine guns are not illegal "without a license". They are illegal if they are not registered in accordance with the National Firearms Act of 1934. I own two. One of which is quite concealable (a small submachinegun). The other one has a folding stock and an 11.5 BBL and is concealable in a backpack. Neither one is considered a handgun in Texas, so they do not require a license to carry in public. I don't know what the fascination with Walmart is, but they have generally made it known that they don't want open carry of handguns in their stores, though they don't post 30.07 signs. Other stores that do allow open carry would probably be OK with my subgun, which is about the size of an AR15 pistol, but heavier. If I wanted to carry though, I'd conceal in a backpack. The point is, why is permitless handgun carry such a stretch in Texas, when permitless long gun and other firearm carry has been legal for a long time?
Walmart is just an example. You say if you wanted to carry you'd conceal in a backpack. Why not open carry? What I'm saying is while it may be legal its frowned upon and when someone calls in on you walking through WALMART or wherever you'll have the law on you.
Some people will irrationally freak out and call the police for things that are not illegal. This could include carrying a gun, appearing to be poor / the wrong race, or whatever. If we want to avoid these confrontations, then we can (well except for the race one, that might be difficult). But the irrational responses of some people should not be mistaken for what is or is not legal.

And I'm not really sure what this has to do with legalizing unlicensed carry (as others have pointed out, a legal unlicensed carrier could choose whether they want to carry open or concealed).

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