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by TexasTornado
Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:23 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...
Replies: 85
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Re: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...

TVGuy wrote:
TexasTornado wrote:
Nothing wrong with either in my opinion. The signs are legal and related to their business. I know our local gun range has decided to post 30.07 for safety reasons related to misfires that have occurred at other ranges when re-holstering in the showroom areas.
I just caught this...Nobody should be un-holstering/re-holstering a gun in a showroom. This is flawed regardless of any signs posted.

For the record, I don't think gun ranges should be posted, but noted that holstered guns MUST STAY HOLSTERED.
I agree it could better be handled by policy, but doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to picture...."have I shown you my new SIG?? It's really sweet...takes it out to show it off..."

Most ranges I have been to require weapons to be unloaded prior to entering the show room for this reason as well.

It's natural to want to have the show and tell moment in a gun friendly environment. Unfortunately not everyone is as responsible with their weapons as they should be.

I will give them the same benefit of any other establishment I frequent. 30.07 fine I'll conceal, 30.06 or both, I'll take my business elsewhere.
by TexasTornado
Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:46 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...
Replies: 85
Views: 19251

Re: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...

sjfcontrol wrote:
One Shot wrote:
JerryK wrote:That doesn't look like a cheep sign. Someone went to some expense to make a statement!
Speaking of which, I noticed one of the companies offering CHL classes is also selling 30.07 signs.
Is that hypocritical, or just capitalism?
I seem to recall someone offering to sell valid 30.0? signs to other instructors for in-class use. Nothing wrong with that IMO.
Nothing wrong with either in my opinion. The signs are legal and related to their business. I know our local gun range has decided to post 30.07 for safety reasons related to misfires that have occurred at other ranges when re-holstering in the showroom areas.

As long as they are following the letter of the law, I have no real problems with it; with that said though, any company posting 30.06 AND 30.07, won't be receiving my business.
by TexasTornado
Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...
Replies: 85
Views: 19251

Re: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...

Vol Texan wrote:
TVGuy wrote:
viking1000 wrote:
TVGuy wrote:
viking1000 wrote:I am sure some where out there is a 3 X 5 index card attached to a business with 3007 lnfo on it.
Not following what you're saying.
A 3 X 5 inch index card placed on a door would not surprise me, that is all I am saying..
If these businesses have surveillance cameras they should be able to spot who is placing the signs after hours.
Gotcha. Frankly, after seeing what they do and from personal experience, I wouldn't put it past them to put up full sized signs.
Small, undersized signs, albeit unenforceable, do have a strong deterrent effect on those of us that are legal. For instance, every Fiesta store I've seen (and I've only been to a couple) have small, undersized signs posted on their doors.

So what happens if I walk inside while OC? I could be simply asked to leave. I could get the cops called on me. In the turmoil of either of those, the store manager may learn that they've posted incorrectly, and may revisit their posting guidelines...and choose to post 30.06 as well.

It's better for me, and for all of us, when seeing an undersized or incorrectly posted 30.07 sign, to obey it as if it were posted validly. Simply walking by an invalid 30.07 sign has a lot more implications than walking past an invalid 30.06 sign (which many of us do on a regular basis).

And back to the idea of rogue people posting these signs...I hope that someone finds the way to impose the full weight of law upon them for their actions.
You're right, improper 30.07 means that they have at least enough knowledge of the law to post something, clearly indicating that they don't want anyone carrying on the premises. Not worth the fight over semantics in my personal opinion. I'll either conceal or go elsewhere.

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