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by WildBill
Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...
Replies: 85
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Re: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...

flintknapper wrote:
Not much to ponder, once it's been said and heard, notice has been given. You can't unhear it.
Yes, I am not arguing the mechanics of the notice, just not certain that notice given is 'permanent' or would not be required each time a person entered an establishment that has no sign or a non-compliant sign since one element required to make it an arrest-able offense is refusal to 'leave'.

I don't want to take this thread off course and discuss that here, but I can certainly imagine some savvy lawyers being able to make a good case for that.

No doubt, this will eventually end up in court. I will NOT be present, I can assure you.
IANAL, but here is some case law that says that a person is not required to be given oral notice each time.

The original oral notice was given on June 2, 2001 and the arrest was made Sept 16, 2001. Upon appeal his conviction was affirmed. The court did not address any time restrictions.

http://law.justia.com/cases/texas/twelf ... /6374.html
by WildBill
Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...
Replies: 85
Views: 18700

Re: Someone placing 30.07 signs in front of businesses...

K5GU wrote:If someone puts a sign or poster on, or in my property that is not approved, and they get caught, they would probably face a criminal mischief misdemeanor charge. If it's a 30.06 or .07 and it can be proven that the sign caused a loss of business, the charges could go up to class B based on the value of sales lost.
It might be difficult to determine and prove the amount of the pecuniary loss, but you are correct. :tiphat:

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