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RPB wrote:John J. Donohue III has an "expert" opinion on everything (You lawyers/legal profession guys know what I mean by "expert")

He does have impressive credentials - Standford Professor, Harvard Law graduate, Yale Phd.
A good mind is a terrible thing to waste.

RPB wrote:Note the authors of that paper
Normally I wouldn't bring up abortion on this forum but for the sake of credibility of the authors ...
http://www.abortiontv.com/Glitch/AbortionAndCrime.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

By legalizing abortion in 1973, did the Supreme Court also drive down the American crime rate during the later Nineties? Professors Steven D. Levitt of the U. of Chicago and John J. Donohue III of Stanford think so.

Fabulous. That makes me glad I made the decision, not to look at the data.

Here's another one that shows his political leanings:

At the Democratic Convention Clinton argued that he had put police on the street and took guns off, but that Bush has done the opposite. Was Clinton truly more anti-crime? I estimate that Clinton-era federal programs were responsible for a six to eight percent reduction in crime seen in the last decade. The Bush administration has failed to build on the Clinton administration's success in funding more police. For no good reason, a crime-control program that has a very favorable benefit/cost ratio is being cut back.
http://works.bepress.com/john_donohue/1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have not looked at the data and probably won't bother. It appears that the Stanford group only re-analyzed the data collected by the National Research Council. It's interesting to note that the data was collected from 1977-2006, well before many states had right to carry laws. They stated that crime rates were analyzed by county. I wonder if they looked at the difference between rural and urban counties. I also wonder if they include data from California and New York and other states where there are no right to carry laws.