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speedsix wrote:...me, too...

wgoforth wrote:I thought this was about whether we can conceal in a church service while partaking of fermented fruit of the vine in the communion at a church building which has a gun buster sign posted on the back door??

gigag04 wrote:u still mad?

tomjh wrote:I think this thread has officially become hijacked.

speedsix wrote:...thank you, WildBill, now I understand what you meant...
...at any rate, and regardless of examples...if you were carrying under MPA concealed on your person, and told the officer, he would have the authority to tell you to step on out and leave it on your person while you did business if he wanted you to......and, in Texas, I wouldn't hesitate to do so, because of the quality of our LEOs...

speedsix wrote:

Ameer wrote:When did a police officer get the authority to give people permission to break the law? Maybe in Louisiana if you pay the right "fee" but it's different in Texas.

...a Texas peace officer can direct you to do a lot of things, from drive through a red light without stopping to pulling up on someone's grass...to holding a gun on someone to shooting someone...

...and what's this about you paying a "fee" to do what we're talking about???that one didn't get tied in very well, did it...it IS different in Texas...and that's why I was talking about Texas, where we are, instead of LA, where we are not...

Ameer wrote:When did a police officer get the authority to give people permission to break the law? Maybe in Louisiana if you pay the right "fee" but it's different in Texas.

74novaman wrote:

WildBill wrote:My objection is when an instructor teaches that it is illegal to have any alcohol in your system if you are carrying. That may be an excellent policy, it may their own personal standard of behavior or their interpretation of the law. It is simply not true that is is against the law.

Exactly.

And sfcontrol, the DPS instructors shouldn't be "interpreting" things when they teach instructors classes either.

If they feel you shouldn't be able to drink and carry, then they should fix the penal code to spell out that you cannot have any alcohol in your system.

sjfcontrol wrote:Did you not see my initial posting above regarding instructors' training?

Keith B wrote:sjfcontrol is spot on on this one guys. I have seen (and arrested) people who were way over .08 that didn't seem to be too intoxicated, and had someone who blew .01 that was wasted out of their gourd. It all depends on the person and WHAT ELSE is going on with their body.

jmra wrote:I'm not a drinker so excuse my ignorance, but it seems that I recall there being non-alcoholic beer/wine available on the market. If you feel the need to drink and know you will be driving and or carrying, why not choose to go the non-alcohol route?

Unless of course your reason for drinking is to achieve the relaxing effects of the alcohol in which case I would suggest neither driving nor carry.

Not trying to be a prude, just trying to understand the mindset.

smoothoperator wrote:IANAL and the laws may be different in Saudi Arabia.

Crossfire wrote:

n5wmk wrote:In my CHL class, our instructor stated that while the Texas DWI level is 0.08% blood alcohol content, the allowable allowable BUC while carrying is 0.00% - in other words, zero tolerance. And I didn't mean carrying while intoxicated, I meant any detectable amount - either by breathalzyer or by the LEO smelling alcohol. There is a definite difference between the two levels, that's the reason for my question. I'm in the vehicle with the handgun, but it's not readily accessible to me.

Can you point out where, in the penal code, that is spelled out?