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Just imagine when we get another Marxist in the WH, one as AG etc.

These are some dangerous precedents being set, and aside from few LEO's here and there, I haven't seen nor heard a strong outpouring of disgust from LE leadership. All that's said usually is "tragic incident", "we will investigate this matter"... Crap. All crap.

These fascistic raids and shootings look to me like authoritarian Petri dish to see just how far mere citizens can be pushed before a step back is needed. So far, it appears the sheeple are willing to eat whatever is served to them, and more concerned with what some "celebrity" is wearing, Ivanka's latest look/dress (sorry the nepotistic environment in WH right now is getting on my nerves), rather to acknowledge that they / WE are being treated like maggot subservient idiot class where our families are threatened, our homes, our Religion and our kids.

Yea, I'm fuming.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I agree with Lynyrd, in that we need to be careful to not paint all LEO with the same brush. The problem the LEO community has is an old one.....the horrible actions of a few bad apples bringing shame and dishonor on the heads and shoulders of good decent cops, making their jobs that much harder. I think we need to remember that there are LOTS of LEO who read these stories, and agree with us that not only is justice not served, but that evil is encouraged whenever a cop gets away with murdering a citizen without any consequences to their own liberty. In the previously mentioned book, "Rise of the Warrior Cop: the Militarization of America's Police Forces", the author, Radley Balko, gives examples of officers who cringed at what they were ordered to do, and then went on to become activists against this kind of thing.

So remember that the good cops still considerably outnumber the bad ones. It's just that the actions of the bad ones are so appalling that it is hard to see beyond them to the good ones who actually agree with us.

But there is no doubt that the policing arm of gov't at all levels has become the enforcement arm. I'd like a LEO to describe to me how, beyond his personal recognition of my 4th Amendment rights, I still even have any 4th Amendment protections in the eyes of law enforcement at large. When the police won't police themselves, and their masters (apparently not us) won't police them, then who makes sure that the rights of the individual citizen are always placed ahead of an ambitious prosecutor's crapulent need to make a name for himself at election time?

In the words of Juvenal, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" , or "Who will guard the guards themselves?".

And it keeps happening because nothing is ever done to significantly punish the offenders and their respective departments & cities.

So, in just few weeks, maybe even days, 90% will forget this and all the other "incidents" such as this one, 7% will continue to fume and 3% will be sure to stay alert and channel our anger into readiness.

No matter how old. No matter where. There are those of us who will never forget Finicum, Castile, Damond and all others who were executed at the hands of trigger happy thug in uniform. I for one am still waiting on police union to say a word about any of this.

What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. This was a blatant murder of an innocent person. Family shattered. Father gone. Husband gone. Son gone. All because the senses of heads of certain LE depts. are gone.

May this man rest peacefully. I hope that his widow sues the department and the city for everything they have. There's no excuse for this, and utter incompetence is just scratching the surface.

But there's only so many officer involved "incidents" such as this one, the one in twin cities from few weeks ago, and the shooting of Philando Castile to name just few recent ones that actually made it into the news rags, before BLEVE erupts.

We can only blame it on incompetence/lack of training for so long. My view has been that officers that I met who were either retired or near retirement had much greater respect for human life, training, greater level of proficiency, and a calmer disposition towards chaos then their younger counterparts. And I say this as a younger person.
The ones in the 25-45 bracket (which I fall into as well), tend to be too hot headed, too "tacticool", and way too overinflated in positions of authority.

That plus affirmative action, tattoo policies that prevent better trained and more rounded personnel to get hired, and requirements in many big city depts. to have a piece of paper 4 year degree rather then actual street smarts amounts to exacerbation of the problem.

Gone are the days of gritty officer, sure there are few out there, but many younger ones would fill their britches each time car backfires nearby. Not good.

So...it's not just Twin Cities?