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by Texian
Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:27 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Proper etiquette
Replies: 43
Views: 6833

Re: Proper etiquette

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Spelling may not be your only problem. You may want to brush up on reading and posting on internet forums as well. The words that you quoted, '"My pistol is bigger than yours".' are not 03Lightningrocks' words, and they are sure not mine either. They were pulled out of context from remarks by TDDude in a post on page one.
by Texian
Wed May 28, 2008 5:29 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Proper etiquette
Replies: 43
Views: 6833

Re: Proper etiquette

txmatt wrote:That's good news? The state is paying millions of our tax dollars to implemenet a huge database with your personal information in it that you have no right to see what information they have about you, and based on this information they keep you may be ticketed because of a mistake that you are not allowed to check or correct. I find this disturbing that the government thinks they can keep files on us that we cannot see or contest the contents of. Worse yet, I believe it's a private company creating and maintaining this database which I fear will mean that there will be little oversight for privacy/security of the personal data.

Get uninsured motorist coverage. If you think the irresponsible people who don't carry liability insurance now are going to start because of this you are fooling yourself.
KBCraig wrote:
txmatt wrote:That's good news? The state is paying millions of our
tax dollars to implemenet a huge database with your personal
information in it that you have no right to see what information they
have about you, and based on this information they keep you may be
ticketed because of a mistake that you are not allowed to check or
correct.
That's my take as well.

Not to mention,
there are people with seasonal vehicles who routinely let the insurance
lap during the months they don't drive them. Or, they have multiple
vehicles and don't keep them all insured while they spend months
working on them in the garage.

I see this being a headache for
people in those categories, and completely ineffective at stopping
those who drive without insurance.
03Lightningrocks wrote:
KBCraig wrote:
txmatt wrote:That's good news? The state is paying
millions of our tax dollars to implemenet a huge database with your
personal information in it that you have no right to see what
information they have about you, and based on this information they
keep you may be ticketed because of a mistake that you are not allowed
to check or correct.
That's my take as well.

Not to
mention, there are people with seasonal vehicles who routinely let the
insurance lap during the months they don't drive them. Or, they have
multiple vehicles and don't keep them all insured while they spend
months working on them in the garage.

I see this being a
headache for people in those categories, and completely ineffective at
stopping those who drive without insurance.
Make that three of us. It amazes me at how easy it is for the Government to rob us of our privacy in the name of helping all.
I would like to make three observations about the last three posts (quoted above):

First, Judging by what I have read, I don't believe you folks have carefully read all of the info on the link provided. If you do you will see that the State of Texas already has all of the information in the database except current data from your insurance company about your "liability" coverage (that will be updated frequently). The FAQs also indicate that a high level of security has been built into the system.

Second, the link also explains that this does not replace carrying your proof-of-insurance card from your insurance company. Nothing in the link indicates that your not being in the system would result in a citation; (provided you have a proof-of-insurance card) only that an inquiry to your insurance carrier would be needed so that current updated information would be in the system in the future after verification of your coverage was confirmed.

Third, It appears to me that the real objection is not as much to this program as it is to the Texas Safety Responsibility Act itself. I never commented about my personal thoughts on that and am not doing so now.
by Texian
Wed May 28, 2008 10:35 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Proper etiquette
Replies: 43
Views: 6833

Re: Proper etiquette

Mike1951 wrote: For the folks mentioning insurance, you must know that a large problem in Texas are folks who make a down payment on insurance to get the 6 month certificate and then never make another payment. Effectively, they have insurance for one month out of six.
That will soon be much less of a problem. Here are some samples of a long FAQ from http://www.TexasSure.com about a new auto liability insurance verification program.


What is TexasSure?

TexasSure is a new vehicle insurance verification system that will ultimately allow law enforcement, county tax officials and vehicle inspectors to confirm whether a vehicle in Texas has required personal auto liability insurance coverage.

What is TexasSure supposed to do?

TexasSure will help reduce the number of uninsured vehicles in Texas. It is expected to help stop the actions some motorists take to avoid the law, such as using counterfeit proof of insurance cards or obtaining insurance to get a card and then promptly canceling the policy once they’ve renewed their car registration or had their vehicle inspected.

When will TexasSure begin operations?

The system is currently being tested at the Department of Public Safety (DPS) and the Texas Department of Transportation (TxDOT). Before DPS rolls it out statewide, its troopers will conduct a two-month pilot program in Austin. Since program testing is in progress, the exact date of the roll out will depend on the outcome of this testing, however, we anticipate statewide implementation this summer.

What information is included in the database? Do I have access to the database to make sure my information is included and correct?

The TexasSure database includes vehicle registration information – such as vehicle identification number (VIN), owner name and address, and make, model and year – and insurance policy information – such as address, insured drivers, insurance company name and policy effective dates. Only authorized users have access to the database. You can contact your insurance agent or insurance company to determine whether the information they have on you is accurate and correct.

Who are authorized users?

At this time, access is limited to law enforcement and vehicle registration offices as these entities are vital in helping reduce the number of uninsured vehicles.

How does TexasSure obtain my insurance information?

Every week, insurers provide their policyholders’ auto insurance information to TexasSure, where it is matched to state driver license and motor vehicle records.

How often will TexasSure update my insurance information?

TexasSure receives weekly updates from insurance companies. A suitable grace period allows for data discrepancies due to vehicle sales, changes in policies, and other normal situations.

How often and when will my information be verified through TexasSure?

The electronic TexasSure system will automatically check whether your vehicle is properly insured each time you register or renew your vehicle registration or have an inquiry by law enforcement. The system also will do periodic checks of the database to make sure vehicle owners have not dropped their insurance coverage.

Do I have to have vehicle insurance?

Yes. Texas law requires every driver to carry minimum liability insurance coverage. Proof of insurance is required for annual vehicle inspections, vehicle registrations, and some driver license transactions.

Do I still have to carry a proof of insurance card?

Yes. While the program will provide accurate and timely electronic verification of insurance, you are still required by law to carry proof of insurance.

What are the minimum limits for auto liability insurance?

As of April 1, 2008, Texas law, under Transportation Code §601.072, requires minimum coverage of $25,000 per injured person, up to a total of $50,000 for everyone injured in an accident, and $25,000 for property damage. This basic coverage is called 25/50/25 coverage. These limits will increase to 30/60/25 on January 1, 2011.

What will happen if I cancel my insurance, or it expires after renewing my registration?

The TexasSure program will continually monitor whether vehicle owners have valid insurance coverage. In the near future, notification letters will be sent to vehicle owners who allow their coverage to lapse.

What happens if I don’t have minimum insurance coverage?


Texas law provides severe penalties for driving without insurance. The first conviction may result in a fine up to $350 plus court costs and possible additional fees, as authorized by Transportation Code Chapter 708. Subsequent convictions can result in fines of $350 to $1,000 and suspension of your driver license.

The insurance policy in my name also covers a car titled in my spouse’s name. Will TexasSure verify my spouse's vehicle's insurance?

Yes, if your spouse is also listed on the policy. However, be sure to bring your proof of insurance card as it may be needed to verify the insurance if you and your spouse have different names and/or addresses.

Will all police officers use the TexasSure system or just Department of Public Safety troopers?

Eventually the system will be made available to all officers statewide.

If I get pulled over, will TexasSure tell the officer whether I have insurance?

In most cases, yes.

What if I don't have my proof of insurance card, and TexasSure verifies my coverage, will I get a ticket?

Each law enforcement agency will set its own policies; however, the law states that you must show proof of insurance. So it’s best to keep that card available at all times.

What happens if I'm pulled over and I don't have my proof of insurance card and TexasSure doesn't verify my coverage?


Your chances of getting a ticket go up dramatically. However, each law enforcement agency will develop its own policies.

Where can I find more information about TexasSure?

You can find more information at http://www.TexasSure.com or contact the Texas Department of Insurance at TexasFRVP@tdi.state.tx.us.
by Texian
Mon May 26, 2008 12:27 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Proper etiquette
Replies: 43
Views: 6833

Re: Proper etiquette

03Lightningrocks wrote:
Now I keep my insurance card and registration papers in a clip on the sun visor.
This begs the questions: Do Texas drivers now have to show registration papers for non-commercial vehicles? Do you have to comply with other states laws when traveling and show registration papers?

I have been stopped a few time in other states but was never asked to show registration.

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