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by Breny414
Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:24 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Private U ?
Replies: 37
Views: 6233

Re: Private U ?

Vol Texan wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:
Bruin98 wrote:
oohrah wrote:Hey everybody, please read SB11. Private universities must post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry on campus, in buildings, or at stadiums. Sure they can put it in the employee rules, and fire me if I violate their rules, but they cannot call LEO and have me arrested, unless they post.

Both public and private institutions will have to post 30.06 to identify the places where concealed carry is not allowed - 411.2031 (d-1), and 46.035 (a-2) and (a-3).
But how many signs? A mall is effectively posted if it posts the main entrance but not the stores that allow access to the mall.

So how many signs will these private schools have to put up?
They don't have to post any.
OK, so now let's get to the actual intent of the OP's question, without mincing the words too much.

Let's assume, for the sake of this exercise, that the school chooses to use the method of posting signs to block carriers. Let's assume that this is a private university, as the OP asks. Now, in this case, I would believe that they'd have to post signs virtually all over campus, at each building. No, the law doesn't say 'at every entrance' for 30.06, but I don't think that if a particular building has 8 regularly used entrances, and they posted only the front door (which, in this fictional example, is not used all that often, because the students transiting campus from all directions come in through the others more often), that would be enough. Sure, if someone sees it, they are notified, but if they don't, then they are not.

Could the school in this situation simply post all entrances to the campus? Sure, that might work, assuming none of the students take public transportation in (thereby not reading things out the windows), or none of them walk onto campus between the streets from a neighborhood close by.

Short answer, the school is going to be buying lots of signs. How many? There is no set requirement.
they do not have to post signs for the student, faculty or staff, they can be notified via school policy. The general public notification will require signs.

So to answer the question, since 30.06 doesn't require signage at every possible avenue of approach, I would say that signs at all the main entrances to the campus (vehicular or pedestrian) would be sufficient.

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ETA the last sentence about how many signs.
by Breny414
Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:54 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Private U ?
Replies: 37
Views: 6233

Re: Private U ?

Bruin98 wrote:SB11 disagrees with those of you saying pricate universities dont have to post.

If you have a cite for your info id like to see it.

SB11 says they have to.
PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER.
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(a-2) Notwithstanding Subsection (a) or Section 46.03(a), a license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on the campus of a private or independent institution of higher education in this state that has established rules, regulations, or other provisions prohibiting license holders from carrying handguns pursuant to Section 411.2031(e), Government Code, or on the grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by such an institution is being conducted, or in a passenger transportation vehicle of such an institution, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed, provided the institution gives effective notice under Section 30.06.

Note the last sentence, "...effective notice under Section 30.06."

Effective notice under 30.06 can be written (i.e., a sign or document) or verbal. they do not have to post signs.
by Breny414
Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Private U ?
Replies: 37
Views: 6233

Re: Private U ?

oohrah wrote:Hey everybody, please read SB11. Private universities must post 30.06 to prohibit concealed carry on campus, in buildings, or at stadiums. Sure they can put it in the employee rules, and fire me if I violate their rules, but they cannot call LEO and have me arrested, unless they post.

Both public and private institutions will have to post 30.06 to identify the places where concealed carry is not allowed - 411.2031 (d-1), and 46.035 (a-2) and (a-3).
Is verbal or written notification for students and employees not enough? If they know you've received verbal or written notice, I believe they can call the police for violation of 30.06. But, as you said, for the general public they will need to post signs or provide verbal or written notice.

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