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flechero wrote: gigag04,

I assume since you hang out here, you aren't one to disarm everyone just for the sake of doing it. But for the guys you might work with who do disarm as SOP, do they ask every stop if they have weapons and search/clear vehicles, also as SOP?

I ask almost every stop about weapons. I also ask about cocaine, crack, methamphetamine, marijuana, unprescribed controlled drugs, large sums of money, contraband, circus clowns, and rebellious nuns. I work the hood so nearly every stop is not just a "stop." It's interdiction of dope and drunks. I've never disarmed a CHL holder during a routine traffic stop, and I don't know anyone in my dept that does as SOP. I have disarmed a CHL holder during my contact who was the suspect of a theft and was ultimately arrested, tried, and convicted for theft. I understand that the majority of the people on this board are "one of the good guys" but in the moment how do we know? You can see the arrest stats for CHL holders...they are very small, but still present. I enjoy getting to chat with CHL holders and generally don't cite them, but I never let my guard down.

I treat being informed of a gun in a vehicle, and observing an undisclosed gun in a vehicle very differently. One involves me making a funny comment, and the other drawing my weapon and starting to issue commands.