I feel partly responsible for you current suffering. Sorrylildave40 wrote:SewTexas wrote:lildave40 wrote:Just my lowly opinion, but if you have nothing to hide what are you worried about?
OMG you didn't really just say that, did you?
I'm can't even respond to this....I'm just going to sit back and let the guys loose
Okay Okay I take it back
ouch
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- Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:52 pm
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Re: Poll: Stop and Frisk
- Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:50 pm
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Re: Poll: Stop and Frisk
Hopefully all of the strong objections won't suppress any supporters from making their supporting arguments.
I would assume that the supporting arguments would all be based on what constitutes the idea of "reasonable suspicion".
For instance, just because an officer has a feeling that a person may have bad intentions doesn't mean that the officers suspicion is reasonable. But if the person appears to be a possibly match for a suspect in the area, then that changes the situation. Should the officer stop the man, frisk him, and ask for ID was he justified as having reasonable suspicion?
My wife tells a story about when she was in HS and riding in a car or a minivan with friends. The vehicle apparently matched the model/color description of a vehicle associated with a dangerous criminal. Apparently when they were stopped by the officers, they were all roughed up a little bit, thrown to the ground, frisked, ID'd, and ultimately released. Seems a little excessive, unless one of them inside the vehicle matched the description of the suspect. The only experiences that I've had with Law Enforcement other than about 4 traffic stops in 16 years of driving have been my waving at Police cruisers as they go by.
I would assume that the supporting arguments would all be based on what constitutes the idea of "reasonable suspicion".
For instance, just because an officer has a feeling that a person may have bad intentions doesn't mean that the officers suspicion is reasonable. But if the person appears to be a possibly match for a suspect in the area, then that changes the situation. Should the officer stop the man, frisk him, and ask for ID was he justified as having reasonable suspicion?
My wife tells a story about when she was in HS and riding in a car or a minivan with friends. The vehicle apparently matched the model/color description of a vehicle associated with a dangerous criminal. Apparently when they were stopped by the officers, they were all roughed up a little bit, thrown to the ground, frisked, ID'd, and ultimately released. Seems a little excessive, unless one of them inside the vehicle matched the description of the suspect. The only experiences that I've had with Law Enforcement other than about 4 traffic stops in 16 years of driving have been my waving at Police cruisers as they go by.
- Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:47 am
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Poll: Stop and Frisk
I've never really thought much about "Stop and Frisk" as a policing tactic since I'm a non-LEO non-criminal non-political person. Upon hearing that Trump is promoting it, my gut reaction was "Uhoh, this is bad for Donald". Because of the constitutionality question, I have always considered this a bad idea. But now that it's becoming a mainstream issue in the Presidential race, I have to consider that maybe I don't fully understand the question.
I'm interested in reading opinions especially of current/former LEOs.
eta: I have allowed for people to change their votes.
I'm interested in reading opinions especially of current/former LEOs.
eta: I have allowed for people to change their votes.