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by txinvestigator
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:31 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: A reminder why we need the 2nd amendment:
Replies: 35
Views: 7996

rickb308 wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:First of all, they PAY you fair market value for yout home. But the bottom line is if they go through the legal motions you WILL move out.
You think so? Ask the people losing their homes to the new Dallas Cowboys stadium. They are not even paying appraised values.
Been in the news.

Appraised = what I am taxed at = fair market value.

Me asking 10 15,000 more? May be fair, may not be. But appraised, taxable value IS fair market value.

Now, in light of the US Stupid court, they DON'T have to even offer "fair" market value. The can get the city council to claim emminent domain.

Investment tip: Buy hemp rope.

Because when it comes time to start hanging the SOB's, it'll be in short
supply.
DO you have a link to that info? The last I heard was they WERE being paid FMV?????
by txinvestigator
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:29 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: A reminder why we need the 2nd amendment:
Replies: 35
Views: 7996

BobCat wrote:The relevance to the Second Amendment is simply that, by attacking the Fifth, the Court has gone farther down the road of making the entire Bill of Rights a dead letter.

This is not to say anything about my personal intent to "take arms against a sea of troubles, and, by opposing, end them" or not to do so. If Hamlet was conflicted, I suppose those of us who are similarly conflicted are in good company.

Look at the Bill of Rights and see which ones are still in force, and which have been severely constrained or negated, and then tell me we have no need to watch out for the future.

Regards,
Andrew
Agreed 100%
by txinvestigator
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:29 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: A reminder why we need the 2nd amendment:
Replies: 35
Views: 7996

rickb308 wrote:
He wouldn't be the 5th or 100th. He also has a problem with the 1st Amendment.

"As responsible gun owners we should refrain from lunatical comments about "the wrong side of our guns".

Or, at least, anyone excersizing it other than him.
If that is directerd at ME, you are foolish. You have no idea of my feelings on the 1st, nor of whom I believe it applies. :roll:

The 1st applies to the GOVERNMENT, not other people telling you that your words have consequences, that you should choose your words wisely and speak responsibly.

While he has a right to say whatever he wishes, it DOES fuel the fires of those who would disarm us when we make statements about resisting court orders with illegal acts using firearms.

Just because we disagree does not mean I am wrong, or that you should attack me and my beliefs. Its seems the pot caling the kettle black, sir.

I NEVER said imminent domain was not a concern to us all (nice of you to make assumptions and statements that are untrue to foster your argument).

You believe I sound like hunters not worried about the AWB, I say you sound like some right-wing, fanatical militia member sitting around watching Red-Dawn and imagining being there. :roll:
by txinvestigator
Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:19 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: A reminder why we need the 2nd amendment:
Replies: 35
Views: 7996

gigag04 wrote:
txinvestigator wrote: a) move without confronting anyone with a gun
b) die after confronting the govt with a gun.

Sounds like a stupid battle to me. I don't believe for 1 second you would pull a gun, but I DO understand your aversion to this.

As responsible gun owners we should refrain from lunatical comments about "the wrong side of our guns".
Surely 200 something yrs ago there too was a voice:

would you rather?

a.)go ahead and pay a tax without proper representation

OR

b.)die after confronting the (british) governement.



I'm glad they choose to ingore that voice.

You can say you wouldn't "bet for one second", but I bet you won't be first in line to come and be a test case to call my bluff either.
If you truly believe that we are again at those times, then I just don't know what to say. Except I feel badly for you.
by txinvestigator
Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: A reminder why we need the 2nd amendment:
Replies: 35
Views: 7996

gigag04 wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:I am sorry, how does the 2nd ammendment effect this?

I guarantee you or any other enitity that comes to take my house so a resort can get built be on the wrong side of every gun I've got.

Stuff like this gets governments overturned - thats what the framers envisioned. Heck...thats what they did...
First of all, they PAY you fair market value for yout home. But the bottom line is if they go through the legal motions you WILL move out.

Comments like yours are what fuels the fires of the antis, grabbers and liberal press claiming gun owners are nut job wackos.

You can talk all of the internet bravado you want, but you would either

a) move without confronting anyone with a gun
b) die after confronting the govt with a gun.

Sounds like a stupid battle to me. I don't believe for 1 second you would pull a gun, but I DO understand your aversion to this.

As responsible gun owners we should refrain from lunatical comments about "the wrong side of our guns".
by txinvestigator
Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:07 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: A reminder why we need the 2nd amendment:
Replies: 35
Views: 7996

I am sorry, how does the 2nd ammendment effect this?

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