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by txinvestigator
Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How long for DPS to process your CHL
Replies: 795
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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:
I have to admit being surprised at DPS' overall handling of CHL applications. It's a great agency as far as law enforcement is concerned, but it sucks at administrating CHL. I have some ideas along the lines of what I've already mentioned that I plan to push in the TSRA Legislative Committee. Only time will tell if they will be accepted.

Regards,
Chas.

It is odd too, as the training division really has their act together on CHL issues.
by txinvestigator
Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:53 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How long for DPS to process your CHL
Replies: 795
Views: 151524

Charles L. Cotton wrote:DPS tries to claim they get 60 business days rather than calendar days, but that's not correct. The statute says not later than the 60th day after the date the department receives the application materials. Tex. Govt Code §411.176(b). When a statute is silent as to business v. calendar days, it's calendar days (common usage).

Chas.
LOL Thats good to know Chas. Even at instructor school they tell us business days. Do you think the legislators might do something next session to help? Do we need to start a letter campaign to the Colonel of DPS?
by txinvestigator
Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How long for DPS to process your CHL
Replies: 795
Views: 151524

dejadoo wrote:txinvestigator,

Yes. I mailed my application certified on October 24, 2005, and the USPS website verifed that it was received on October 25. The letter they sent notifying me that they had received my application and providing my PIN # was dated November 14.
They have 60 business days. You application had been there 48 business days on December 23.

By my quick guesstimate, Jan 12 is your 60 day mark.

Hopefully you will get pretty soon. Good luck!!
by txinvestigator
Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:25 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How long for DPS to process your CHL
Replies: 795
Views: 151524

dejadoo wrote:I am new to this forum and am awaiting the arrival of my CHL. I am at 75 days, as of today, without any hiccups, i.e. fingerprint or other paper work problems to cause a legitmate delay. I have read this entire thread and have one question.

What recourse is available to us if DPS uses a bogus excuse, or does not offer an excuse, for not issuing a license withing the 60 day time frame?

December 25, 2005 was day 60 for me. I called on December 27 to inquire as to the status of my application. After the lady on the other end looked me up in the computer, I was told "it would be another week due to employees being off for the holidays".

I called again on January 4, 2006. Once again they looked my up in the computer and this time I was told that everything was complete. The lady on the other end said she "would not be able to get it in the mail that day, but she would mail it tomorrow".

I am just a few miles from the DPS office, so I expected it by this Saturday at the latest. And as everyone may guess, due to me posting here, it still has not arrived.

So, if I chose to raise a stink over this to whom would I direct my complaint?
On what date did you mail your packet? Do you know on what date they received it?
by txinvestigator
Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How long for DPS to process your CHL
Replies: 795
Views: 151524

Remember it is 60 businessdays to issue. That does not include weekends and holidays. ;)
by txinvestigator
Tue May 10, 2005 11:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: How long for DPS to process your CHL
Replies: 795
Views: 151524

I am an instructor and work at a gun range where we do about 20 initials and 20 renewals a week, on average.

I can tell you that from MY observation there are 2 consistent things getting apps kicked back.

1) Fingerprints. We use 2 ID techs from the Dallas County Sheriffs Department who actually work the jail and do prints for a living. Seldom do bad prints come back to us; however, if the printer or applicant failed to sign the card, it comes back.

2) photos The back of the photo not taped to the photo card MUST be signed by the person taking the photo AND the applicant. Once in a while, if the other photo is not signed it will get kicked. (temp employee?)

Other than that it is usually an ommission on the applicants part, or a county not getting info to DPS in a timely fashion.

I am not opposed to your efforts to get DPS in compliance with the 60 day rule. Just my observations for you.

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