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rtschl wrote:

Tracker wrote:

rtschl wrote:I'm late to this discussion, but I agree with Keith's comments above about being careful switching from CC to OC being perceived to alarm the person. Always call 911 in situations like this. I think OP did great.

I agree it is unlikely homeless will call 911 but what about a witness nearby who only saw you and your weapon and not the aggression towards you? Be the first to call.

Luckily, most gas stations have video.

Agreed, but the OP's situation was not at a gas station.

Mick22 wrote:I attended U of H - Downtown and at least once a month, they would report a robbery or assault of a student near the campus. Most of the descriptions were that of a homeless person(s).

So, I wouldn't be surprised if their intent was to rob you.

SewTexas wrote:Rich,

^ I like it you just OC'd.
I think you did just fine....with everything, from parking to dealing with potential criminals.

Jketchum wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:

imkopaka wrote:No. "Stop or I'll blow your brains out" would be a threat.

I only said, stop.

I think you did great

imkopaka wrote:No. "Stop or I'll blow your brains out" would be a threat.

imkopaka wrote:As for justification, it seems you could have made a case for it. You were outnumbered by people who clearly wanted money and advanced toward you in a threatening manner despite your clear orders to stop. Attempted robbery would not be that difficult to justify.

imkopaka wrote:Theoretically, if you didn't make any verbal threats and didn't remove the pistol from the holster, then you didn't threaten them. If your pistol was in a belt holster (regardless of IWB/OWB) then you didn't violate the rule against "intentionally revealing" your gun -- you just switched from concealed carry to open carry.

Jketchum wrote:Might be a dumb Question, but is raising your shirt reveling your holstered weapon to stop a threat / potential threat illegal?

twomillenium wrote:

imkopaka wrote:

I pulled my shirt up and put my hand on my gun ( I didn't pull it)

Didn't leave the holster, not brandishing.

That's what you say. (If they called first that is how what you said will be handled)

Bryanmc wrote:I see the point they're making. You dropped your MIL at the door and could have just as easily picked her up at the door, thus leaving the space vacant for a handicapped person who was driving themselves. It would have saved your MIL the walk to the car after dinner as well.

Soccerdad1995 wrote:I'm guessing the homeless guys chose their spot with the intent of finding an easy, handicapped victim.

WTR wrote:

JALLEN wrote:It's not illegal to use a placard to park as long as the person the placard is assigned to is present and was transported in the vehicle.

It is illegal to use the placard of another to park if that person isn't along on the ride.

Texas is rather generous in granting HC placards. I qualified for one here, being on supplemental oxygen for pulmonary fibrosis, but did not in CA.

I always take HC parking when available rather than the next most convenient spot, so a healthy person can park in that spot who cannot use the HC spot.

That's not what the DMV (TX) told me. Yhe owner of the card must be utilizing the card......not just present.

ScooterSissy wrote:

Richbirdhunter wrote:

The Wall wrote:How was the return trip? Did you report it to the police? Maybe the next guy parking there won't have to deal with the same two guys that way.

I told a couple of the dads what happened and they walked back to the truck with us. No sign of the guys.

I didn't call the police, I probably should have but what would have said? Two homeless guys scared me?

I believe I would have. I'm glad it didn't happen, but let's pretend events eventually unfolded another way.

You scared them off and went on to the restaurant. Then, 20 minutes later two policemen showed up asking to talk to you outside, as two men reported someone matching your description brandishing a firearm at them.

I'm a big believer that the first person to the police are have the most believed story, at least initially.