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Rifleman55 wrote:

Fedaykin wrote:

MasterOfNone wrote:Churches are off-limits only if 30.06 notice is provided.

Thank you for your response! However, the current Texas Penal Code states that a Church is a prohibited place to carry. Just went to the Texas website and read it.

That law has been amended, you need to read the rest of the statute.
You can carry at church unless it is posted 30.06.

This is why they need to just remove that section. It confuses people. No need [abbreviated profanity deleted] rit to be there, same as the amusement park section.

I already corrected him on that. He got bad info from class i think.

SQLGeek wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

doc.lonestar wrote:

Note that #1 only applies if it's a PUBLIC school. Private schools can post whatever/wherever they want.

But does 30.06 apply to having a gun in the car? I was under the impression with a posted parking lot, you could stay in the car but couldn't get out with it on you.

If you are referring to private parking lots then I believe the consensus is that they are off limits period. Now I dont know how that affects MPA carry in the car without a CHL. Of course the criminals will carry theirs.

doc.lonestar wrote:Folks I want to just step up and openly admit that I was incorrect with the statement I made in regards to this topic.

Apparently I was given some incorrect information and I would just like to clarify after speaking with a rep at the office. After an indepth conversation on what I was taught vs what is correct I have come to the conclusion that what I was taught, in regards to this particular circumstance, was incorrect.

1 - The CHL holder can pass the 30.06 sign posted at the entrance of the school parking lot. Will only be in violation if you exit the car carrying.
2 - CHL holder does not have to leave because a school function showed up. The showing up of school field trip does not change the place into a school function.
In my defense - not an excuse because I should have used the common sense test here - these two very specific things were brought up in class and tested across the board. The answer came back from our resource(s) that my answers given were correct - I take very good notes.
Thanks again for the clarification folks.

No prob Doc, thats why the board is here, to help. But you are almost there. You can exit the car and carry all the way to the door. DO NOT enter the building though. Premises are defined as the buildings not the grounds. I carry, park the car and walk to the sidewalk where the kids are and get my daughter all the time. However if i have to go in I have to disarm. Grounds only come into play if a function is in progress, ie a football game (scholastic, not some 3d party league) field day, graduation etc. In your defense the classes are notorious for giving out bad info, old info, wrong opinions and such. I swear sometimes a Liberal is teaching the class. I would suggest you read the book you were given cover to cover and ask questions here if you are unsure. One of the people responsible for the law is on this board so youre not going to find a better source. The DPS wont even give you right answers sometimes.
If you want to really stir it up then ask about postoffices, 1911 v Glock, JHP v FMJ, and "can I carry a full auto suppressed mac 10 concealed?"

We all had to get the bad advice flushed out of our heads at some time. Doc got some bad advice, possibly in class, and he simply needs to be shown the way. We do have the advantage of legislators, lawyers and LEO on our board that others dont.

doc.lonestar wrote:If the school has placed the 30.06 sign at the entrance of the school parking lot then you cannot enter into the parking lot - end of story. If you feel there is an issue with this then you can take it up with the school board (since they approved its location) and argue our case. If they decide not to remove the sign then you will be in violation every time you enter the parking lot to pick up your child - end of story.

Some food for thought - I was shocked to learn this:

Lets say you are sitting at a local all you can eat pizza place - you have been there with your family for 2 hours (making a point) - when a school bus loaded with kids pulls up and out pour 30 kids on a field trip. If you are carrying - you must remove your ccw immediately or you are in violation.

You read this right folks - even if you are there for 2 hours prior to them showing up - you are in violation for not leaving to lock up you firearm.

Does this make any more sense than a 30.06 sign blocking the entrance to pick up a child? No, but the law is the law.

You learned wrong. You do not have to leave the restaraunt, museum, library, etc simply because a school group shows up. Also, the school can not legally post so the sign is unenforceable but you might take a ride. You will win in court though but doubt it will ever get to court.