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ScooterSissy wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:...
You clearly haven't read all of my posts or don't understand that there are circumstances where someone you've never met is going to come over to your house. So please, take the time to read and then get back with me because the bolded above is not a reasonable argument.

I have read all of your posts in this thread, and still don't understand how you think a person who doesn't know you well would 1) Know that you expect a person to have permission and 2) get permission without informing you they're armed.

MeMelYup wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:

jmra wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:I guess I'm a little surprised at some of the responses here. Some feel no one should come in their homes without first telling whether or not they're armed; do those folks also feel that permission should be granted by a business owner before someone carries? Why should a business have to post, but not a homeowner? To me, it's the same concept, if you don't want someone to carry in your home, post it.

As far as carrying in other folks homes, I carry just about anytime I leave the house. I'm not going to disarm just because I"m going to someone's home that i know (unless I see a sign on the door). I'm typically not going to leave it at home (unless they tell me to ahead of time). I've never had either happen.

Most of those that know me well know that if I come over, there's a good chance I'm armed. Those that don't know, I'm not likely to tell them one way or another.

I never said that in any way shape or form. You don't need to tell me anything, but you'd better not carry in my home without my permission.

Just curious, if your home isn't posted how is someone supposed to know they "better not carry in my home without my permission"?

They won't and I'll never post my home either. Perhaps I, and many I know, just see the issue differently. A persons home is sacrosanct imo. It's nothing more than common courtesy.

Now to be clear, I'm not going to cause a scene if I happen to find that someone is carrying in my home but I will have a private talk with them and explain that I find it rude and may ask them to put it in their vehicle.... may. (this assumes they have a chl, if not they'll be asked to leave immediately.)

While I don't agree with you on this point, I believe we may have a way to handle this if open carry passes. If you're entering the home of someone where you don't know how they feel on CC, you open carry and point to it before you enter thereby seeking permission (as suggested by somebody earlier above).

And by the way if you do feel so strongly, it's kind of rude not to post a sign or tell the person in advance how you feel before inviting them.

I understand your point regarding the bolded. Perhaps it's just that we run in different circles. Not that that makes either one right or wrong.

I'm simply saying that it's rude, imo, to enter someone's home while carrying, without their permission. Would you openly pass gas at a friends house during a social or business gathering? Not the best analogy, I admit. But hopefully it gets the point across. There are some things, that while perfectly legal, are just plain rude.

As for open carry, I can assure you that none of the CHL friends I have would consider OC in someone's house during a business or social event unless the invitation specifically said "Got Guns?.. Show Em!" And they apply the same towards CC.

I'm strongly supportive of 2A and individual rights to both own and carry a gun. I just place the sanctity of the home above that.

Some may, and clearly do, disagree. That's you're right. You're not breaking any laws. Just don't forget that I'm the King of my Castle, and I'll make the final decision, regardless of the law. Show me the courtesy of not carrying in my home without my permission, just as you would not openly pass gas in my crowded living room.

If you know me well enough to invite me over to your house you will know that I carry all the time that I am awake, including Church. If you do not want me to carry at your house you need to specify that carry is not allowed and I will comply by not darkening your doorstep. I am not being sarcastic, if you come to my house I will expect you to act proper and curiously, but would not ask you to disarm. Asking a person to disarm that you have invited to your house is showing a lack of faith in that persons morals and intentions and you should not have invited them. Your carrying a firearm is hopefully for the same reasons that I carry mine.

ScottDLS wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:

jmra wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:I guess I'm a little surprised at some of the responses here. Some feel no one should come in their homes without first telling whether or not they're armed; do those folks also feel that permission should be granted by a business owner before someone carries? Why should a business have to post, but not a homeowner? To me, it's the same concept, if you don't want someone to carry in your home, post it.

As far as carrying in other folks homes, I carry just about anytime I leave the house. I'm not going to disarm just because I"m going to someone's home that i know (unless I see a sign on the door). I'm typically not going to leave it at home (unless they tell me to ahead of time). I've never had either happen.

Most of those that know me well know that if I come over, there's a good chance I'm armed. Those that don't know, I'm not likely to tell them one way or another.

I never said that in any way shape or form. You don't need to tell me anything, but you'd better not carry in my home without my permission.

Just curious, if your home isn't posted how is someone supposed to know they "better not carry in my home without my permission"?

They won't and I'll never post my home either. Perhaps I, and many I know, just see the issue differently. A persons home is sacrosanct imo. It's nothing more than common courtesy.

Now to be clear, I'm not going to cause a scene if I happen to find that someone is carrying in my home but I will have a private talk with them and explain that I find it rude and may ask them to put it in their vehicle.... may. (this assumes they have a chl, if not they'll be asked to leave immediately.)

While I don't agree with you on this point, I believe we may have a way to handle this if open carry passes. If you're entering the home of someone where you don't know how they feel on CC, you open carry and point to it before you enter thereby seeking permission (as suggested by somebody earlier above).

And by the way if you do feel so strongly, it's kind of rude not to post a sign or tell the person in advance how you feel before inviting them.

jmra wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:

ScooterSissy wrote:I guess I'm a little surprised at some of the responses here. Some feel no one should come in their homes without first telling whether or not they're armed; do those folks also feel that permission should be granted by a business owner before someone carries? Why should a business have to post, but not a homeowner? To me, it's the same concept, if you don't want someone to carry in your home, post it.

As far as carrying in other folks homes, I carry just about anytime I leave the house. I'm not going to disarm just because I"m going to someone's home that i know (unless I see a sign on the door). I'm typically not going to leave it at home (unless they tell me to ahead of time). I've never had either happen.

Most of those that know me well know that if I come over, there's a good chance I'm armed. Those that don't know, I'm not likely to tell them one way or another.

I never said that in any way shape or form. You don't need to tell me anything, but you'd better not carry in my home without my permission.

Just curious, if your home isn't posted how is someone supposed to know they "better not carry in my home without my permission"?

ScooterSissy wrote:I guess I'm a little surprised at some of the responses here. Some feel no one should come in their homes without first telling whether or not they're armed; do those folks also feel that permission should be granted by a business owner before someone carries? Why should a business have to post, but not a homeowner? To me, it's the same concept, if you don't want someone to carry in your home, post it.

As far as carrying in other folks homes, I carry just about anytime I leave the house. I'm not going to disarm just because I"m going to someone's home that i know (unless I see a sign on the door). I'm typically not going to leave it at home (unless they tell me to ahead of time). I've never had either happen.

Most of those that know me well know that if I come over, there's a good chance I'm armed. Those that don't know, I'm not likely to tell them one way or another.

jmra wrote:I don't have many events in my home but when I do it's invitation only. Anyone on the invite list with a CHL is more than welcome to carry until if/when I see them behaving in such a manner that would lead me to revoke that privilege.
In fact, I would expect someone with a CHL to believe CC in my home is perfectly fine if I have invited them and done nothing to convey that CC is prohibited.

TXBO wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:This is just my opinion and not a comment on what others do.

I don't take kindly to those that carry in my home without first notifying me and getting my permission. (My close friends with CHLs already have permission to carry anytime in my home, as I do in theirs.) And in turn I don't carry in someone else's home without doing the same.

Now, I live in DFW and as a result of various social and business relationships there are often people I don't know or know only slightly that come into my home. And I often enter others homes under similar circumstances. There are also people that are anti-gun or just not comfortable with others carrying in their home. ( I don't have to agree with them on this issue to do business with them or enjoy the occasional social event.)

Regardless of what the law says, I'll control what goes on in my home and will grant others the right to do the same in their home. Outside of that, I'll carry where ever I'm legally allowed without regard to what others think.

Interesting. I prefer to find another venue, other than my home, for people I "don't know or know only slightly".

C-dub wrote:

BlueMerle wrote:This is just my opinion and not a comment on what others do.

I don't take kindly to those that carry in my home without first notifying me and getting my permission. (My close friends with CHLs already have permission to carry anytime in my home, as I do in theirs.) And in turn I don't carry in someone else's home without doing the same.

Now, I live in DFW and as a result of various social and business relationships there are often people I don't know or know only slightly that come into my home. And I often enter others homes under similar circumstances. There are also people that are anti-gun or just not comfortable with others carrying in their home. ( I don't have to agree with them on this issue to do business with them or enjoy the occasional social event.)

Regardless of what the law says, I'll control what goes on in my home and will grant others the right to do the same in their home. Outside of that, I'll carry where ever I'm legally allowed without regard to what others think.

That starts to let a lot of people know that don't need to know. If you're okay with that then that's your choice. Over the years the number of people that know I carry has expanded, but is still somewhat small and usually limited to other CHLs. I will often wait until they make some comment indicating they carry or they just flat out say it. Sometimes, even then, I don't reciprocate that I do and am at that very moment.