I still don't understand why the law puts a maximum size for the gun-buster sign. It seems that if they wanted to placate MDA, which attacks the size of the 30.06 as a straw, tangential attack on concealed carry, the law would say that a certain tiny minimum size would be fine, giving the shopkeeper liberty to make his statement as loud and proud as he wanted.
Oh, wait, liberty. I see. That's the problem. Never mind.
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- Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:22 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Call-To-Action: HB2405 Gutting TPC §30.06
- Replies: 86
- Views: 16624
- Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:47 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Call-To-Action: HB2405 Gutting TPC §30.06
- Replies: 86
- Views: 16624
Re: Call-To-Action: HB2405 Gutting TPC §30.06
I had a nice conversation with Nevarez' office. It was a little like having a nice conversation with a gun prohibitionist, but part of that may just have been the stress of the day. Or maybe not...
Anyway, the staffer told me one problem was the 30.06 sign was huge, to which I pointed out each section of the sign is 12 or 14 inches tall. Under Nevarez' HB2405, the sign would have to be readable and conspicuous, but could be as small as an index card. In fact, his law would make it non-compliant to have a sign larger than 8.5 x 11 inches.
Why, I asked, would you want to prohibit a shopkeeper from helping me stay within the law? Even 8.5 x 11 inches is enough to be hidden by someone standing in front of the sign. I come to a full stop at stop signs. If you made them smaller and easy to overlook, I would probably be guilty of running some of them even though I clearly don't want to.
That line of reasoning seemed to get through to Representative Moody's staffer. She had me help her find (c-1) (3) where the size of the sign is limited to smaller than a sheet of typing paper. The DPS is supposed to come up with size regulations, but are not required to set a single size. Nevarez' law would be completely served by the DPS producing a graphic with the instructions "Print this any size you want, at least 1 inch by 1 inch, but don't you dare get as big as a legal size 8.5 x 14 inch sheet of paper."
There is too much misunderstanding as it is. One staff member (in John Wray's office, I think) told me he was going to get his CHL. He knew he would be able to carry in the Capitol, but in talking to DPS troopers on site he learned committee rooms were off limits.
My understanding is committee rooms are off limits if posted 30.06. No matter which of us is confused, none of us should be.
I think the rule should be carry everywhere, post the exceptions - but have no exceptions automatic. If you can't carry, there should be a sign.
Anyway, the staffer told me one problem was the 30.06 sign was huge, to which I pointed out each section of the sign is 12 or 14 inches tall. Under Nevarez' HB2405, the sign would have to be readable and conspicuous, but could be as small as an index card. In fact, his law would make it non-compliant to have a sign larger than 8.5 x 11 inches.
Why, I asked, would you want to prohibit a shopkeeper from helping me stay within the law? Even 8.5 x 11 inches is enough to be hidden by someone standing in front of the sign. I come to a full stop at stop signs. If you made them smaller and easy to overlook, I would probably be guilty of running some of them even though I clearly don't want to.
That line of reasoning seemed to get through to Representative Moody's staffer. She had me help her find (c-1) (3) where the size of the sign is limited to smaller than a sheet of typing paper. The DPS is supposed to come up with size regulations, but are not required to set a single size. Nevarez' law would be completely served by the DPS producing a graphic with the instructions "Print this any size you want, at least 1 inch by 1 inch, but don't you dare get as big as a legal size 8.5 x 14 inch sheet of paper."
There is too much misunderstanding as it is. One staff member (in John Wray's office, I think) told me he was going to get his CHL. He knew he would be able to carry in the Capitol, but in talking to DPS troopers on site he learned committee rooms were off limits.
My understanding is committee rooms are off limits if posted 30.06. No matter which of us is confused, none of us should be.
I think the rule should be carry everywhere, post the exceptions - but have no exceptions automatic. If you can't carry, there should be a sign.
- Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:47 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: Call-To-Action: HB2405 Gutting TPC §30.06
- Replies: 86
- Views: 16624
Re: Call-To-Action: HB2405 Gutting TPC §30.06
I don't understand the enthusiasm for monkeying around with 30.06, or, frankly, posting the signs at all.
They apply to almost nobody, and the few they do apply to walk very softly, particularly considering the big sticks on their hips.
Making the calls.
They apply to almost nobody, and the few they do apply to walk very softly, particularly considering the big sticks on their hips.
Making the calls.