Well articulated point by Ayoob.... once again. The rest of his ten commandments are just as compelling if anyone hasn't read them.VMI77 wrote:Massad Ayoob on open carry: http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/14/massa ... led-carry/
Concealed Means Concealed
If your local license requires concealed carry, keep the gun truly concealed. The revealing of a concealed handgun is seen in many quarters as a threat, which can result in charges of criminal threatening, brandishing and more. A malevolent person who wants to falsely accuse you of threatening them with a gun will have their wrongful accusation bolstered if the police find you with a gun where they said it was. Yes, that happens. Some jurisdictions allow “open carry.” I support the right to open carry, in the proper time and place, but I have found over the decades that there are relatively few ideal times or places where the practice won’t unnecessarily and predictably frighten someone the carrier had no reason to scare.
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- Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:54 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
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- Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:17 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
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That is how Arizona was when I lived there in the 90's.mojo84 wrote: There are actually states that allow unlicensed open carry and require a license to conceal. I think Georgia may be one. I also saw the other day you can carry openly in schools in Michigan but not concealed. Seems crazy to me but I believe that is the case in some places.
- Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:23 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
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I'd be just fine with that.... As long as you don't ask me to leave it in the car. Tucked?.... Untucked?...No problem.Right2Carry wrote:I can just imagine what this topic would look like if Whataburger had chosen to allow open carry but posted a 30.06 sign? I can hear it now.
- Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:25 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
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Ask me to conceal my gun...... As you wish.
Ask me to carry my gun openly....Fine, as you wish.
Ask me to leave my gun in the car..... I'll eat elsewhere.
Ask me to carry my gun openly....Fine, as you wish.
Ask me to leave my gun in the car..... I'll eat elsewhere.
- Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:47 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
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The owner of the forum fought pretty hard and long to make open carry in Texas a reality. That should be your best indicator.Richbirdhunter wrote:I just would like to understand how much OC is acceptable at this forum.cyphertext wrote:Open carry in and of itself is not bad... but forcing a business to take a side when they really just want to sell hamburgers, burritos, or coffee is. Think about this for a sec. Had we not had OCT carrying long arms in Starbuck's, Wendy's, Chipotle, Sonic, Applebee's, Jack in the Box, Target, etc., this probably would not be an issue. Because of the political grandstanding inside local businesses, they were forced to choose a side. Had businesses not been drug into the debate, most would probably be taking a wait and see attitude about open carry... and if as few choose to open carry as expected based on OC in other states, it probably would not be an issue at all.Richbirdhunter wrote:I'm sorry, I'll tow the company line. OC is bad and if you have an opinion different then that you are militant and that is bad.Abraham wrote:We have a handful of militants OC types here, most of them new to the board stirring the OC pot.
They unfailingly reject the very reasonable, thoughtful responses in regard to OC.
They're like constantly complaining, colicky babies
From this point on, I plan to ignore their militant OC posts and hope others do to.
Perhaps, eventually they'll catch on that this forum, by and large rejects their militancy.
Perhaps, (I've never searched) there other forums that welcome their views.
Whataburger's policy is acceptable, except to the extremists on both sides of the issue...
- Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:14 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whataburger's Gun Policy (Ugh)..........
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Forums without opposing views are pretty boring.Abraham wrote:We have a handful of militants OC types here, most of them new to the board stirring the OC pot.
They unfailingly reject the very reasonable, thoughtful responses in regard to OC.
They're like constantly complaining, colicky babies
From this point on, I plan to ignore their militant OC posts and hope others do to.
Perhaps, eventually they'll catch on that this forum, by and large rejects their militancy.
Perhaps, (I've never searched) there other forums that welcome their views.