If I remember correctly, there were a few instances of EMS guys posting stuff to Facebook and Twitter a while back, which might have had something to do with that ban. In those cases, or a future case where a LEO did the same, I'm all for suing the crap of out of them. That doesn't mean that everyone who isn't issued a camera should be rolling without one, IMO. It just means they've gotta be responsible adults about it.ELB wrote:I agree in general, but it is not without its own risks. I also have read of some departments that specifically ban body cameras, they don't want individual officers winging it with their own cameras.AndyC wrote:Are you calling him old??
I tell you something, and I'm sure most if not all would agree - if I were a cop and my dept didn't happen to issue bodycams, I'd be investing in one for myself tout-de-suite. Excellent link, btw - thanks
We tend to think only of the camera being on during things like in the OP, but what if your personal, not-department-authorized camera is on when you are in someone's home for a non-criminal interaction -- are you invading their privacy? What if something embarrassing for the homeowners happened and it comes to light you videoed that? Can you be sued? Will the department, or the police union if you have one, back you up when you had a piece of unauthorized gear, even if they didn't explicitly ban cameras? Fire departments and EMS crews have had trouble with these kinds of issues, so a lot of FDs and ambulance services are banning personal recordings/pics on duty, just for this reason. To some extent, when people call on public services, they become part of the public record, but the public also still frowns on people being unnecessarily embarrassed or humiliated as well.
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- Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:37 am
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- Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:39 pm
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You still didn't answer the questionb322da wrote:I did not say "authorizes;" I said "invites." A big difference.Taypo wrote:A "Come and Take it" sign invites a search? Why is that?b322da wrote:Be sure you look at the sign on the rear of the stopped vehicle. I would say that Officer Wheeler "came and took it."
Such a sign invites a stop and search of the vehicle, probable cause or reasonable suspicion notwithstanding. These can usually be manufactured after the fact.
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- Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:48 am
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A "Come and Take it" sign invites a search? Why is that?b322da wrote:Be sure you look at the sign on the rear of the stopped vehicle. I would say that Officer Wheeler "came and took it."
Such a sign invites a stop and search of the vehicle, probable cause or reasonable suspicion notwithstanding. These can usually be manufactured after the fact.
Jim