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by Taypo
Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:21 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Psychiatric treatment left off application
Replies: 27
Views: 9321

Re: Psychiatric treatment left off application

mojo84 wrote:I think we all need to be careful about focusing in on the scary sounding words such as anxiety, depression, mood and intelligence etc. Those all come in varying degrees and not all degrees warrant the loss of someone's rights as not all degrees of the conditions cause one to be a danger to themselves or others.

We don't want to fall into the same type of trap as the media and be scared of all the scary black military automatic assault weapons with armor piercing bullets.

See what I did there?
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This is why the CHL process includes a medical board for situations like this, right? I'm not saying the guy doesn't deserve a CHL either, but I sure would like someone capable of making a judgement about his mental state to take a look. I'm firmly in the camp that it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to mental issues.

Skipping that stuff in his application is a red flag to me.
by Taypo
Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:20 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Psychiatric treatment left off application
Replies: 27
Views: 9321

Re: Psychiatric treatment left off application

ScottDLS wrote:
Taypo wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:Seems like the original post here disappeared. However, with the way that even GP's are handing out anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds these days, I think you'd rule about 20% of the population ineligible for CHL depending on how you define the qualifications. I am highly suspicious of any disqualification of persons for CHL that is not based on an adjudicative process. Merely being prescribed certain meds or seeing a therapist are not an indication of anything without additional context. For example SSRI Wellbutrin is prescribed to people suffering major depression, but it is also prescribed to quit smoking (Chantix). Benzodiazapines (valium, xanax, etc.) are prescribed for anxiety, but dentists give them for prep for certain procedures.

Watch out people. "Mental Illness" is going to be used by the regime to deprive of us of our rights and freedoms. VA and SSA adding people to NICS is the beginning. Soon the State poking around in our medical records to disqualify us from firearm ownership. Hold certain politically incorrect views? You're mentally ill! No passing NICS for you.

Or am I being paranoid? :shock: No CHL for me!
Regardless of what is being taken for, Wellbutrin is evil stuff with a documented history. I certainly wouldn't carry if I had it in my system and I'd hope that I'm not around anyone who is. Benzos aren't anywhere near as dangerous, but I'd still leave the gun locked up. Being under the influence, regardless of the cause, is still under the influence and IMO anyone caught carrying in that condition deserves to be stripped of a CHL. Anyone under doctors care requiring they be under the influence should be denied.

We're already under attack. Why risk the chance of yet another incident with a mentally injured soul? Worse yet - what happens if the next one has a Texas CHL?
Wow, I've heard quite the opposite from medical professionals. Xanax and other benzos are widely abused and apparently you can even die from withdrawal. Meanwhile, Chantix (Wellbutrin) is being handed out to help quit smoking. Isn't it an SSRI/SNRI? If everybody taking SSRI's/SNRI's was "under the influence" we have about 20% of the adult population walking around stoned (the other 80% are drunk! "rlol" ).

I'm worried about the people NOT taking their meds, or vets not seeking treatment for PTSD to avoid being stigmatized and losing their 2nd amendment rights. "Adjudicated mentally defective" should mean just that....a judicial hearing with an opportunity to attend and present evidence in your defense and a presumption of being mentally fit until the government proves otherwise.
I could care less what the adult population is doing, what they're on and how sober they are. I'm more concerned with the 3% of Texas that has the right to carry a concealed handgun. You seem to think that because they gub'mint is grabbing guns, we should be ignoring whatever the underlying issues that got them noticed in the first place. Not everyone is mentally capable of carrying a gun. Possibly even the OP, who has gone into hiding. Add in the combination of drugs behind used to treat whatever it is they're being treated for and we're asking for trouble.

Am I saying that the administration is right for confiscating, especially without adjudication? Certainly not, but it should be sending red flags in someone's direction when someone seeing a professional and taking antidepressants is applying for a CHL
by Taypo
Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:33 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Psychiatric treatment left off application
Replies: 27
Views: 9321

Re: Psychiatric treatment left off application

ScottDLS wrote:Seems like the original post here disappeared. However, with the way that even GP's are handing out anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds these days, I think you'd rule about 20% of the population ineligible for CHL depending on how you define the qualifications. I am highly suspicious of any disqualification of persons for CHL that is not based on an adjudicative process. Merely being prescribed certain meds or seeing a therapist are not an indication of anything without additional context. For example SSRI Wellbutrin is prescribed to people suffering major depression, but it is also prescribed to quit smoking (Chantix). Benzodiazapines (valium, xanax, etc.) are prescribed for anxiety, but dentists give them for prep for certain procedures.

Watch out people. "Mental Illness" is going to be used by the regime to deprive of us of our rights and freedoms. VA and SSA adding people to NICS is the beginning. Soon the State poking around in our medical records to disqualify us from firearm ownership. Hold certain politically incorrect views? You're mentally ill! No passing NICS for you.

Or am I being paranoid? :shock: No CHL for me!
Regardless of what is being taken for, Wellbutrin is evil stuff with a documented history. I certainly wouldn't carry if I had it in my system and I'd hope that I'm not around anyone who is. Benzos aren't anywhere near as dangerous, but I'd still leave the gun locked up. Being under the influence, regardless of the cause, is still under the influence and IMO anyone caught carrying in that condition deserves to be stripped of a CHL. Anyone under doctors care requiring they be under the influence should be denied.

We're already under attack. Why risk the chance of yet another incident with a mentally injured soul? Worse yet - what happens if the next one has a Texas CHL?
by Taypo
Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:20 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Psychiatric treatment left off application
Replies: 27
Views: 9321

Re: Psychiatric treatment left off application

R DAVIS wrote:Beyond the question at hand about your answer on the application, there is another more important question you need to ask yourself.

If you DO have a personality disorder (anxiety in this case), should you be walking around with a loaded pistol in your pocket ? Anxiety requiring medication to control, and immediate access to a deadly weapon on a moments notice, is not a good combination.

There must certainly be a genuine issue of some kind that caused you to seek treatment in the first place. I doubt you just wandered into a psychiatrists office on your own, seeking relief from a common cold.

Whether or not you are granted a license, it is your moral duty to yourself, family, and society, to find out the nature and depth of the issue. It might be a good idea to ask the psychiatrist about it specifically.
That may have been the politest possible way to give voice to what some of us were thinking.

Well done

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