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carlson1 wrote:

DaveT wrote:

J Wilson wrote:Check #12 on chart.I think DaveT is correct

J Wilson,

In my post that tank wants to correct me on, I was totally correct about the angled foregrip being legal. That is verified on the chart I posted earlier.

However, I also made a statement that a vertical foregrip was illegal.... and that's the part of what I said that Tank corrected me on. Actually, he and I are both right.

The regs and the chart state that an vertical foregrip is illegal, UNLESS the overall length of the AR-Pistol is OVER 26 inches.

I was referring to what I know about my AR-pistol, which is well under 26 inches in overall length.... so for my weapon, what I stated is right, a vertical foregrip is illegal.

What I failed to take into consideration, and what Tank is right about, is AR-pistols that exceed 26 inches in overall length are legal with a vertical foregrip.

I should have been more specific, that might have avoided all this fuss. I'm an old guy, but even after a lifetime of weapon use in both the military and as a Police Officer, I will be the first to admit that I am no expert, and certainly do not know it all. What I am confident about is that there are always folks that know more than I do, and I respect them for their knowledge.

And just for the record, I do not get my feelings hurt over internet stuff. There's way too many more important things in life to worry about.

OK After reading this I went and remeasured my AR pistol. My pistol is 28 1/2 inches long. That is including the KX5 flash hider. I am assuming that it is 26" without the flash hider.

I do not have the foregrip, but I did install a hand STOP. Is the hand stop legal? I do not see that on the chart that was posted.

This stuff can get sticky.

DaveT wrote:
The addition of a vertical foregrip is not legal and would change the weapon's designation from an AR pistol to a short barreled rifle.

C-dub wrote:

Tank wrote:

carlson1 wrote:

DaveT wrote:The forearm is totally legal, I also have a copy of the explanation from ATF to that effect. I can post it here if you need it.

The addition of a vertical foregrip is not legal and would change the weapon's designation from an AR pistol to a short barreled rifle.

If you can post it that would be great.

It appears everyone has their on ideal. I guess you need to carry a copy of a letter everywhere you go.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0qyloA ... li=1&hl=en

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Thanks for the link Tank.

And welcome to the forum. Been lurking/reading a while?

carlson1 wrote:

DaveT wrote:The forearm is totally legal, I also have a copy of the explanation from ATF to that effect. I can post it here if you need it.

The addition of a vertical foregrip is not legal and would change the weapon's designation from an AR pistol to a short barreled rifle.

If you can post it that would be great.

It appears everyone has their on ideal. I guess you need to carry a copy of a letter everywhere you go.

DaveT wrote:The forearm is totally legal, I also have a copy of the explanation from ATF to that effect. I can post it here if you need it.

The addition of a vertical foregrip is not legal and would change the weapon's designation from an AR pistol to a short barreled rifle.