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by cyphertext
Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

flechero wrote:
On Tuesday, Hammer emailed Breitbart News a response to the Yeti statement. The statement said:

YETI severed ties with the NRA and is now engaging in damage control after a backlash from many of its customers. In early March, YETI refused to place a previously negotiated order from NRA-ILA, citing “recent events” as the reason – a clear reference to the tragedy in Parkland, Florida. YETI then delivered notice to the NRA Foundation that it was terminating a 7-year agreement and demanded that the NRA remove the YETI name and logo from all NRA digital assets, as well as refrain from using any YETI trademarks in future print material. While YETI is trying to spin the story otherwise, those are the facts. While Yeti can choose to run from the NRA, they can’t run from the facts.

Hammer concluded her statement by noting, “Whether this is due to the recent cancellation of the IPO from their New York City owners is a question only they can answer.”
I'd say the ball is STILL in yeti's court.
Hadn't seen that...
by cyphertext
Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

puma guy wrote: The alternative customization program is just a part of their Corporate sales option, which I mentioned is available to anyone who has the money to take advantage of it. I said the Brady bunch could get the same deal to put their logo on Yeti products. Just pay the fees. It has nothing to do with any partnership or alignment. Yeti's corporate execs probably thought that explanation would fly as they munched on their tofu and kale salads. They are too obtuse to understand the NRA's inference that they (Yeti) would no longer be supporting youth programs by cutting off the NRA Foundation and said the NRA lied about that. Hard to see reality in the land of the unicorns.
OK, so everyone could get in on this deal... If that is the deal that YETI offers to everyone, then I don't see that as refusing to sell to the NRA. Now, if 10 partners got some type of discount that the NRA got, and it is still available to others but the NRA has been dropped, then that is a different story as well. But even that is different than refusing to sell to the NRA... That is the part that I am tripping up on... did they flat out refuse to sell to the NRA, or did they refuse to sell at the discounted pricing? Neither one makes me happy, but their is a significant difference.
by cyphertext
Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

Keith B wrote:
cyphertext wrote:
rtschl wrote:How is the NRA supposed to prove a negative? They said it was without prior notice and YETI refused to say why. The burden of proof is squarely in the hands of YETI. If they are telling the truth they need to do the following:

* Show proof that they offered "an alternative customization program" prior to NRA-ILA statement
* Show proof that this notice (and alternative program) was made to other organizations
That is why I would like to see the original correspondence. YETI says that they offered an alternative program, NRA says they didn't...
  • One of them is lying.
The NRA could just as easily clear this up by providing the original correspondence as well.

If the NRA is telling the truth, why did this announcement come out of the Florida group only, vs a national release?
Why would the NRA lie about them getting cut off by YETI. The NRA would have nothing to gain from doing something like that. Clearly YETI is backpedaling and trying to lie their way out of a bad decision.
I guess I just can't see YETI saying that they wouldn't sell coolers to the NRA. What would YETI have to gain from that? I can however see them discontinuing discount programs... The thing is, right now it is a bunch of he said, she said... seems like if it were so cut and dry that the NRA would post the correspondence they had with YETI that kicked this off... Or YETI would... :headscratch
by cyphertext
Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:01 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

rtschl wrote:How is the NRA supposed to prove a negative? They said it was without prior notice and YETI refused to say why. The burden of proof is squarely in the hands of YETI. If they are telling the truth they need to do the following:

* Show proof that they offered "an alternative customization program" prior to NRA-ILA statement
* Show proof that this notice (and alternative program) was made to other organizations
That is why I would like to see the original correspondence. YETI says that they offered an alternative program, NRA says they didn't... One of them is lying. The NRA could just as easily clear this up by providing the original correspondence as well.

If the NRA is telling the truth, why did this announcement come out of the Florida group only, vs a national release?
by cyphertext
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

Keith B wrote:
cyphertext wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote: You're right, it's damage control because they are in serious trouble. They are lying pure and simple.

Chas.
Mr. Cotton, can you elaborate on Yeti "lying"? Do you have the statement from YETI to Friends of NRA stating that the program was being discontinued? Does it mention a new program?

Right now we have both sides claiming the other is "lying"... not sure who to believe anymore.
Here is the letter from the NRA-ILA with the statement from Marion Hammer. It states YETI was not telling them why they were not selling to them, so he must have had correspondence with them. Now YETI is backing up and trying to weasel out of their initial boycott because of the backlash from NRA members. https://www.nraila.org/articles/2018042 ... foundation
That doesn't answer the question... does anyone have any actual correspondence from Yeti to the Friends of NRA? I want to see how it was explained.
by cyphertext
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
mrvmax wrote:
flowrie wrote:I sent an email to Yeti, here is their response sent to me via email.


“We're writing in response to your recent email inquiry.

A few weeks ago, YETI notified the NRA Foundation, as well as a number of other organizations, that we were eliminating a group of outdated discounting programs. When we notified the NRA Foundation and the other organizations of this change, YETI explained that we were offering them an alternative customization program broadly available to consumers and organizations, including the NRA Foundation. These facts directly contradict the inaccurate statement the NRA-ILA distributed on April 20.

Further, the NRA-ILA stated in that same public communication that "[YETI has] declined to continue helping America's young people enjoy outdoor recreational activities." Nothing is further from the truth. YETI was founded more than 10 years ago with a passion for the outdoors, and over the course of our history we have actively and enthusiastically supported hunters, anglers and the broader outdoor community. We have been devoted to and will continue to directly support causes tied to our passion for the outdoors, including by working with many organizations that promote conservation and management of wildlife resources and habitat restoration. From our website to our film footage and from our social media posts to our ambassadors, YETI has always prominently featured hunters pursuing their passions. Moreover, YETI is unwavering in our belief in and commitment to the Constitution of the United States and its Second Amendment.

Thanks for reaching out to YETI.”
I think it’s damage control. Until they show proof I won’t believe it.
You're right, it's damage control because they are in serious trouble. They are lying pure and simple.

Chas.
Mr. Cotton, can you elaborate on Yeti "lying"? Do you have the statement from YETI to Friends of NRA stating that the program was being discontinued? Does it mention a new program?

Right now we have both sides claiming the other is "lying"... not sure who to believe anymore.
by cyphertext
Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

OldCurlyWolf wrote:
bblhd672 wrote:
LDB415 wrote:RTIC is every bit as good for about half the cost. Never bought Yeti and for sure never will now.
RTIC is the brand I have. If its good enough for Buc-Ees it’s good enough for me! :mrgreen:
The only problem with the lesser priced brands is that they are all made in China. Even Yeti has all of their thermal cups made in China.
Unless you call them and ask for an American made cooler, you are not guaranteed to get one...

From their website. https://www.yeti.com/faq.html#product-info

"Our Tundra coolers are manufactured in the USA at facilities located in Minnesota and Wisconsin as well as at a facility located in the Philippines."
by cyphertext
Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA
Replies: 121
Views: 38537

Re: Austin based Yeti quits doing business with NRA

Grundy1133 wrote:over priced cups. you can go to wal mart and get one for about $9. seen side by side tests on youtube. the $9 cup and the $60 cup keep ice cold about the same. guy placed 10 ice cubes in each cup and left them overnight. the results in each cup were pretty much the same. couldnt really tell a difference. Yeti is the iphone and macbooks of the cup industry... over priced and dont do anything better than other brands but people are mindless sheep and buy it becuase of the brand name lol
Agree on the aluminum tumblers... Disagree on Apple products. Have had both Apple and Android phones. My wife, my son, and I are still using iPhone 6. Android phones would not have lasted this long and would not still be supported.

Neither Apple or Google are that gun friendly...

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