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jmra wrote:

Aileronguy wrote:

jmra wrote:

remington79 wrote:Oldgringo posted a good example. Keep the wording just get rid of the force of law part. If someone is found carrying they are asked to leave. If they don't then they can get a citation. It is that simple. As I said it is not the end of the world if the sign doesn't carry the weight of law. If you don't want someone to carry you ask them to leave. This is the best solution where each party's rights are respected.

Given the strong property rights sentiment in TX, I'm not sure the "what you don't know won't hurt you" approach will fly. What you are telling business owners that don't want firearms on their property is "catch me if you can". Other places have gotten away with that but Texas is not other places. This simply will not pass.
We need to stop fantasizing and get back to reality. Changing the penalty to a class C misdemeanor in 2015 sounds like something that could be accomplished. Maybe in 2017 or 2019 you could get it to a civil penalty (get caught past a 30.06 sign pay $50 - much better than "go directly to jail").

STRONG property rights? Like the governors Trans-Texas corridor? Property WAS lost in that land grab. Not that those poor folk will ever get it back. And yes, I do know it eventually failed, but such is the power of the government to do whatever, thought through or not.

You're way off topic.

jmra wrote:

remington79 wrote:Oldgringo posted a good example. Keep the wording just get rid of the force of law part. If someone is found carrying they are asked to leave. If they don't then they can get a citation. It is that simple. As I said it is not the end of the world if the sign doesn't carry the weight of law. If you don't want someone to carry you ask them to leave. This is the best solution where each party's rights are respected.

Given the strong property rights sentiment in TX, I'm not sure the "what you don't know won't hurt you" approach will fly. What you are telling business owners that don't want firearms on their property is "catch me if you can". Other places have gotten away with that but Texas is not other places. This simply will not pass.
We need to stop fantasizing and get back to reality. Changing the penalty to a class C misdemeanor in 2015 sounds like something that could be accomplished. Maybe in 2017 or 2019 you could get it to a civil penalty (get caught past a 30.06 sign pay $50 - much better than "go directly to jail").