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by mr1337
Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:53 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Situation is causing me to rethink carrying capacity
Replies: 23
Views: 3732

Re: Situation is causing me to rethink carrying capacity

Jumping Frog wrote:Let's not forget Travis Dean Neel who saved the life of Harris County Deputy Sheriff Flores. Flores was attacked by four men and shot five times. Neel fired 39 shots using 3 fifteen round magazines to drive off the attackers. Most of that was suppressive fire.

Would he have preferred a rifle? Sure. But he used the tools he brought to the party.

Is a defensive gun use with 39 shots fired unusual? Of course .... But it is not unheard of.

Carrying, whether 5 rounds or 50 rounds, is not about living in fear. It is also not about probabilities, as none of us are likely to require armed defense. It is simple prudence and preparedness, no different from a kitchen fire extinguisher or stocking hurricane supplies. Where we draw the line at number of rounds is entirely individual. Personally, I prefer erring towards the higher end of the range.
Great points. The guy that runs the LegallyConcealed Youtube channel recently made a point that statistics don't matter. And by that I infer that he meant probabilities don't matter. When it happens to you, it's 100%. It's not a 15% chance, or a 1 out of every 500 people statistic. It's 100% you, right then and there.

I think it's amazing how Neel was able to out-gun four hardened criminals just by having some extra capacity.

Also a note about having a rifle. If you have time to go get a rifle, chances are you're able to exit the situation safely and you're able to get to a safe place. Unless, of course, you're law enforcement. For the most of us, our handgun is what we've got, and whatever capacity we bring with us is what we'll have when stuff hits the fan.
by mr1337
Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:19 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Situation is causing me to rethink carrying capacity
Replies: 23
Views: 3732

Re: Situation is causing me to rethink carrying capacity

Scott wrote:I'd like to add to all the recent talk about switching to 9mm from whatever caliber your carrying now. As a lot of you have been doing, I have thought about switching from carrying a 40 and going back to just 9mm. A few weeks back I observed a guy pointing a Glock at another person. As if that wasn't enough, what really got my attention was the 33 round magazine sticking out of the end of the gun. Gun was pointed sideways, no doubt. It's also not the first time that I have ran across this. Usually a banger caught with it in a car. Anyway, just wanted to add something else to think about. As for the situation, no one was harmed.
Did you call the cops?

Also, keep in mind that the majority of gun fights only last 2-4 rounds. But, there's no such thing as too much ammo. I carry 15+1 in a Glock 19 plus an extra fully-loaded mag of 15 rounds. Not so much for firepower, but just in case I need to clear a malfunction with the main magazine, I can swap them out.

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