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by jbarn
Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:14 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: i drew my weapon tonight
Replies: 103
Views: 16181

Re: i drew my weapon tonight

RPBrown wrote:
jbarn wrote:I am going to be the contriarian. Your CHL class includes non violent dispute resolution for just these types of incidents. What would have done had he kept walking towards you?

Here is when deadly force is justified;
Texas Penal Code
Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
In my opinion, pulling your gun was premature. I worry when our first response at an angry person is to grab our gun. We need other tools. If the only tool a carpenter carries is a hammer, eventually every problem begins to look like a nail.
I have to respectfully disagree here. We have made a choice to carry and our weapon of choice is a tool. These are exactly the types of situations that cause us to carry.
To the OP, I think you did the right thing, especially if you never revealed your weapon to him.
However, since this actually happened last night, there remains a chance that there could still be some ongoing legal investigation. With this chance in mind, I am not sure I would have posted this soon.
So your only tool for a person yelling is your gun? How about a person who pushes you? Shoot him? I ask these questions to provoke thought.
by jbarn
Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:49 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: i drew my weapon tonight
Replies: 103
Views: 16181

Re: i drew my weapon tonight

I am going to be the contriarian. Your CHL class includes non violent dispute resolution for just these types of incidents. What would have done had he kept walking towards you?

Here is when deadly force is justified;
Texas Penal Code
Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and
(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or
(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
In my opinion, pulling your gun was premature. I worry when our first response at an angry person is to grab our gun. We need other tools. If the only tool a carpenter carries is a hammer, eventually every problem begins to look like a nail.

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