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by OlBill
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:13 am
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Topic: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.
Replies: 22
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Re: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.

flechero wrote:
If your goal is just not to sun burn on a bald/shaved top, it's fine! :lol:
If the sun is shining a beret is bad. It's made out of wool.

And it won't keep the sun out of your eyes.
by OlBill
Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:14 am
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Topic: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.
Replies: 22
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Re: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.

Funny thing about berets. They're actually a terrible head gear, but everybody wants one.
by OlBill
Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:39 pm
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Topic: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.
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Re: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.

They've tried this kind of unit before. It doesn't work. This kind of work requires a maturity level above what is normally found in most units.

It's called Foreign Internal Defense (FID) and it's not for the lazy or big egos. It's very difficult.

FID is the core mission of SF and yes, they have drifted away from it or had last I checked. Everybody wants to be a commando.

It takes years to develop the required skill sets.

There were those in the SEALs who were good at it, but on an individual basis.

There is a lot of "Well, they're good at this so they'll be good at that! " thinking in the upper levels. And budget competition.

The thing about the hats is indicative of their lack of understanding of what it takes. They probably wanted another SF Group without the cost and effort. "Nobody will know the difference."
by OlBill
Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:15 pm
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Topic: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.
Replies: 22
Views: 6371

Re: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.

bblhd672 wrote:Apparently the Army got the message:
1st Security Force Assistance Brigade

The 1st SFAB has great respect for U.S. Army Special Forces, their many accomplishments and their singularly distinguished history. We also respect the concerns associated with the heraldry of the 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.

The 1st SFAB is not a Special Forces organization. We are a conventional force purposefully built to partner with other conventional forces. SFABs will support Army readiness by allowing brigade combat teams to focus on building their readiness for large scale contingencies instead of on the train, advise and assist missions.

In accordance with Army guidance, we will select a new unit name. The Army has also decided the SFABs will wear a Brown Infantry Beret like those worn by many armies. Our new name and photos of the beret will be published once the final decisions are approved.

Thank you for your support as we establish the identity and culture of the #1SFAB.

U.S. Army U.S. Army Forces Command (FORSCOM) XVIII Airborne Corps
Idiots.
by OlBill
Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:42 pm
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Topic: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.
Replies: 22
Views: 6371

Re: Stop issuance of the Green Beret to the U.S. Army 1st Security Force Assistance Brigade.

C-dub wrote:
Liberty wrote:Maybe its me , but I've gotten a little confused about the role of the Special Forces. The Navy seal seem to be seeing a lot of action in the Mountains of Afghanistan and and not so much about the Special Forces these days. Seems to me that there is some political castration going on. Maybe it's just some old Army loyalty and Navy rivalry in me ... But it just seems like the SEALs are getting jobs the Special Forces used to do. Things just aren't the same as they used to be 40 years ago.
I don't know why certain branches get certain assignments, but the SEALs are special forces. IIRC, each branch is represented. Even the Marine Corps had their Force Recon unit added to SOCOM a few years back. However, I don't think the Coasties are in there yet.
No, SEALs are not Special Forces, they are Special Operations Forces. There is a difference. And there is only one Special Forces.

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