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The Mad Moderate wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:

Ameer wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:If someone making less than $36,000.00 a year pays any taxes they are doing something wrong.

I will have less income than that this year but I have to pay 14% of everything I earn to the FICA Fairy (more like an evil troll) plus $850 on my first $18000 of income, plus 15% on everything over $18000 if I earn that much.

Help a brother out. What am I doing wrong?

I have an accountant that specializes in tax law do our taxes. What I know about the tax code will not fill much of a sentence.

Based on what I understand about the tax credits etc the lower income folks should be doing quite well percentage wise. 14% ain't bad. Neither is 15%.

Anygunanywhere

Tax Credits, namely the EITC (earned income tax credit) do make a difference but they are significantly impacted by income levels and especially age, the EITC not being available till age 25 or if you have dependents. There is only one deduction I can take which does not make a huge impact on the amount of taxes I pay, and as far as FICA and SS taxes I never will see a cent of that money returned based on what I see now. So to call me a dirtbag, paracite, commie because I think the OWS protesters have some good points then so be it but don't say I don't pay taxes or my fair share, do not tell me I am looking for a handout, I am looking for fairness in politics and the tax code as I said before the fact Warren Buffett pay 18% on most of his income is wrong. The top 1% have far too much influence than ANY of us do.

If you are looking for fairness in politics and taxes, identifying yourself with the OWS is not the way to convince people of your intent. You need to identify yourself with a different group.

Anygunanywhere

Ameer wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:If someone making less than $36,000.00 a year pays any taxes they are doing something wrong.

I will have less income than that this year but I have to pay 14% of everything I earn to the FICA Fairy (more like an evil troll) plus $850 on my first $18000 of income, plus 15% on everything over $18000 if I earn that much.

Help a brother out. What am I doing wrong?

I have an accountant that specializes in tax law do our taxes. What I know about the tax code will not fill much of a sentence.

Based on what I understand about the tax credits etc the lower income folks should be doing quite well percentage wise. 14% ain't bad. Neither is 15%.

Anygunanywhere

The Mad Moderate wrote:You can leave the personal attacks at home.

Sorry but they are not personal attacks. They are a defensive stance against people who insist that those well off pay more than their fair share so that almost half can skate free without paying much at all.

Mrs. Anygun and I have worked very hard for what we have. We have earned every penny through sweat and labor, long hours, and consistent performance. To see the taxing entities be they county state or fed suck up their "share" each year angers me to no end. Our combined tax bill is equal to nearly 45% when all is said and done including the so called fair and equal sales taxes. When anyone starts talking about fair taxes I automatically tune them out because until EVERYONE pays EQUALLY it will not be fair. Then to see the OWS dirtbags demand that debt be eliminated and cry for socialism the defense mechanisms rev up. It is not time for a different tax code or scheme, it is time to hit the reset/reboot switch.

Anygunanywhere

The Mad Moderate wrote:You seem to need a math lesson, I said overall higher rate, it I make 24k in a year and spend most of it I'm taxed 8% on what I spend, now if someone was to make 124k and spend 50k yes all 50K is taxed at 8% but what about the other 74k that goes untaxed, so overall I pay a higher rate than someone making more money than me. Do not insult my intelligence.

Your basic premise seems to be that you are jealous of someone who earns more than you.

You must dislike a lot of people.

Get over it.

If someone making less than $36,000.00 a year pays any taxes they are doing something wrong.

Almost half of people living in this country pay no taxes. These individuals are not the rich elite.

Anygunanywhere

The Mad Moderate wrote:So my "choice" to spend what little money I have on essentials should be punished at a higher overall rate than a rich person who has money to burn.

If you do not like your place in life and want to get rich, do something about it. Last time I checked this feat is still possible and is entirely dependent on whatever limitations you place on yourself. Many have done so.

Oh, by the way, more often than not it is done by way of a process called capitalism.

Or, you could just run for congress or senate and get your millions off the backs of working men and women.

Anygunanywhere

Mad Moderate may have changed his name, but he can't change his spots.

Anygunanywhere

XnTx wrote:Cliches, slogans, and dogmatic diatribes are not solving the problem.

Neither will socialism.

They would be better served by protesting the government and doing something about it.

Big government is not anyone's friend.

If they had a real taste of socialism in its purest form I doubt thay would be wanting that either.

Anygunanywhere