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by G.A. Heath
Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Gun as a Gift
Replies: 25
Views: 2672

Re: Gun as a Gift

magillapd wrote:
G.A. Heath wrote:
magillapd wrote:
SQLGeek wrote:
magillapd wrote:I'm about to buy a new revolver and after I put it through it's paces, I'm going to ship it to PA to my parents house to "store" for me. It's always going to be my gun, my dad is just going to keep it in his table by his chair for in home self defense. When he is gone, it's coming back to me. So.....it'll always be mine.

I will either ship it FFL or hold it until I take a trip up there again.
Even if you take a trip up there, I think you have to transfer it to him via an FFL in PA.
Again, the gun isn't going to be his. It's mine and will always be mine. Same thing as my old childhood shotgun that I left up their. They are free to use it, but at no time will it not belong to me.
We understand that, but the ATF will still consider it a transfer.
I guess I don't see it that way. So I'm not allowed to keep and store guns at someone elses house? How is this different from me leaving a car up there and letting them drive it? I'd still be the owner but they would be the users.

I'm not trying to argue, I just don't understand. Since I'm not reqired to "register" a gun in either TX or PA why does it matter where I keep it? The truth is my dad isn't in very good health. When he's no longer with us, I'm bringing my gun back to my home in TX.

I don't see why the ATF needs to get involved in the storage/use of a gun when ownership isn't be transfered. My father will not be free to sell that gun to anyone because he'd not be the owner of it.

I know our Govt has some really screwed up laws, but I'm truly lost on this.
If it were a simple matter of storage then it would be legal, the thing that gets you into trouble is allowing the person who you "store" it with to use it. Because they will use/handle the firearm they have control of it, and since they have control of the firearm you have "transferred" it to them.
by G.A. Heath
Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Gun as a Gift
Replies: 25
Views: 2672

Re: Gun as a Gift

magillapd wrote:
SQLGeek wrote:
magillapd wrote:I'm about to buy a new revolver and after I put it through it's paces, I'm going to ship it to PA to my parents house to "store" for me. It's always going to be my gun, my dad is just going to keep it in his table by his chair for in home self defense. When he is gone, it's coming back to me. So.....it'll always be mine.

I will either ship it FFL or hold it until I take a trip up there again.
Even if you take a trip up there, I think you have to transfer it to him via an FFL in PA.
Again, the gun isn't going to be his. It's mine and will always be mine. Same thing as my old childhood shotgun that I left up their. They are free to use it, but at no time will it not belong to me.
We understand that, but the ATF will still consider it a transfer.
by G.A. Heath
Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:38 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Gun as a Gift
Replies: 25
Views: 2672

Re: Gun as a Gift

On the 4473 it asks if your the actual buyer of the firearm, now there is a reference there to a place on the 4473 that says you are the actual buyer if you are going to gift the firearm to another party.

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