Well thanks that actually makes a lot of sense and makes me feel better!RoyGBiv wrote:In both cases I could not see their reaction since they were behind my shoulder. On the "move slowly", I reached over, opened the glove box and sat back in my seat so he cold have a view. I had the gun hidden under a hand towel and told him so. He said "ok" and I got my insurance card out from underneath. I didn't move in slow motion, but, was careful not to grab any part of the gun. In both cases I did not detect any change in attitude or any additional stress. Just some basic verbal instructions to do what needed to be done. Nothing unexpected.TrackinPat wrote:Well sounds good to me! Did their eyes widen and jaw tighten when you told them? How did you deal with the "move slowly guy" obviously I'm assuming you moved slowly but was it an exaggerated slow and you has to sit like a statue the rest of the stop?
Honestly, I think the best thing you can do at a traffic stop is to realize you're busted, that while it's embarrassing and potentially costly, there's nothing you really need to worry about. What's done is done. Your gun is not in any way illegal and in my opinion, being relaxed, making it as easy as possible for the officer to do their job and get going, will work in your favor or at least not make things worse. Relax... It's not a problem. Acting all nervous, OTOH, raises flags, I bet.
One other example... I made the mistake of taking a job in NJ many years ago. A buddy came to visit from NC and brought his guns. Really, really bad idea, but he didn't discuss it with me beforehand. In the 2 years I lived there, the ONLY time LE drove past my house happened to be at the very moment my buddy was emptying his trunk and carrying his shotgun (in a soft case) into my house. There were 4 squads (8 officers) there in less than 5 minutes. (well.. it wasn't so funny at the moment).
They demanded ID from both of us (I debated telling them to bug off, but decided that it was a small enough issue I'd rather try to deescalate), asked a lot of questions, called in for instructions twice and ultimately decided that no laws were broken, since he was moving a long gun from his car 20 feet to my house. I thought at the time that because we were both very nonchalant about it, the LEO's were too... The officers that were first on the scene (driving by) were uptight for about 30 seconds, until they had control of the situation and were getting no resistance from us... then every new squad that showed up arrived with a MWAG-call demeanor for the first 10 seconds, until they realized that nothing was happening. We just stood there with our arms crossed. Two North Carolina boys wondering what all the fuss was about. Every time I see a story about a citizen getting sent to jail n NJ for their fly-paper gun laws I send it to him. We still get lots of laughs out of it. Bottom line is, I believe the fact that we were totally at ease with the fact that we were not doing anything wrong helped things go smoothly.
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- Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:12 pm
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- Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:10 am
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Well sounds good to me! Did their eyes widen and jaw tighten when you told them? How did you deal with the "move slowly guy" obviously I'm assuming you moved slowly but was it an exaggerated slow and you has to sit like a statue the rest of the stop?
- Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:54 pm
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Hmmm... that makes it tricky, doesn't it.bizarrenormality wrote:It doesn't say notification must be oral so handing over both licenses should count as written notice.
- Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:26 am
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and in your limited experience with this encounter, how did said officer react?RoyGBiv wrote:1. Pull over in a safe spot.TrackinPat wrote:I'm having a hard time grasping how this encounter should go down, can someone please write a short scenario of how you would tell them in the beginning of a traffic stop?
2. Roll down windows (both sides), turn on dome light, both hands on top of steering wheel, hands empty.
3. Allow officer time to say hello. They will likely say something similar to "My name is officer Smith, do you know why I stopped you today?"
4. To which your reply should be.... "Officer Smith, I need to let you know that I have a carry permit and I am carrying a weapon today, let me know how you would like to proceed".
Then follow directions.
It really is that easy... In my limited experience.
- Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:43 pm
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Re: Oklahoma Traffic Stop
I'm having a hard time grasping how this encounter should go down, can someone please write a short scenario of how you would tell them in the beginning of a traffic stop?