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by drumbdummer
Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:42 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Compliance
Replies: 45
Views: 4979

Re: Compliance

chasfm11 wrote:
drumbdummer wrote:
chasfm11 wrote:

I'm not sure than non-musicians would understand but I'm practicing to perform a Bach orchestral work. The notes in it fly by quickly. There is but one fleeting instant in time for each note to be correctly played and if that note occurs after that point, it is wrong. 4 of those notes (16ths) have to occur in half of a second and some measures have 4 groups of 16ths in them. While I'm only slightly slower that what is required, it is still wrong. Almost doesn't count. My fear is that compliance in a LE enforcement encounter could turn out the same.
I completely understand what you are saying here (I'm a musician too).

I think that the best thing to do is follow txglock21's advice and tell them as soon as possible that you are hard of hearing. In a traffic violation type situation, I would suggest this be the first thing that you tell the office while your hands are at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel. In a MWAG type call outside of a store, I would suggest raising arms slowly and stating loudly that you are hard of hearing and cannot hear the orders to comply with them. Keep the hands up and don't move until someone makes it so that you can understand the commands. I hope that your upcoming Bach performance goes well!
Frankly, I worry about that being enough. I've watched many of the videos of LE encounters and the expectation appears to be higher than that. I think it goes up measurably (the speed of expected compliance) when there is a gun involved. Any time there is more than 1 officer involved, my problem could get a lot worse.

It is the Bach Orchestral Suite #1 Overture and I'm playing oboe. The part is fast and very exposed in places. I'm the only non-professional musician playing in the group. It is quite a challenge for me as I only recently picked up the instrument after not playing it for over 30 years. My fingers don't move as quickly as they did but my breath control is even worse. MM=104.
I don't know the oboe part in that particular piece, but I wouldn't be surprised that it's difficult. Some of those moving lines can really take practice to get into the fingers. As my nick implies I am just a dumb drummer.... (yes I spelled it wrong on purpose in my nick) so breath control is the least of my concerns! :smilelol5:

As for the original concern.... I think you have a right to be concerned but you can only control your actions. I would handle it like I mentioned and pray for the best! I do think that most situations you might face won't involve more than 1 or 2 officers telling you what to do though.
by drumbdummer
Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:18 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Compliance
Replies: 45
Views: 4979

Re: Compliance

chasfm11 wrote:

I'm not sure than non-musicians would understand but I'm practicing to perform a Bach orchestral work. The notes in it fly by quickly. There is but one fleeting instant in time for each note to be correctly played and if that note occurs after that point, it is wrong. 4 of those notes (16ths) have to occur in half of a second and some measures have 4 groups of 16ths in them. While I'm only slightly slower that what is required, it is still wrong. Almost doesn't count. My fear is that compliance in a LE enforcement encounter could turn out the same.
I completely understand what you are saying here (I'm a musician too).

I think that the best thing to do is follow txglock21's advice and tell them as soon as possible that you are hard of hearing. In a traffic violation type situation, I would suggest this be the first thing that you tell the office while your hands are at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel. In a MWAG type call outside of a store, I would suggest raising arms slowly and stating loudly that you are hard of hearing and cannot hear the orders to comply with them. Keep the hands up and don't move until someone makes it so that you can understand the commands.

I hope that your upcoming Bach performance goes well!

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