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Having now read the entire set of rules the general policies do state that "Costco policy prohibits firearms..." referring in the third person to the policy. None of the other 'policies' use this language. In other words it doesn't say "Costco policy prohibits liquor and tobacco sales to be made to minors." It says "Liquor and tobacco sales cannot be made to minors."

This may seem a parsing of the language but since there is a published policy on firearms in the warehouses and since the phrase "Costco policy prohibits..." refers to that policy where the other prohibitions are stated in the affirmative and do not refer to separately written policies, it seems that what the actual policy states is what prevails.

However the rules apply specifically to members and are not addressed to the guests since the policy clearly specifies the policy as a membership policy which the members are expected to agree to adhere to else your fee will happily be refunded. So, in their mind this 'policy' stops the members but only a 30.06 will stop the guests.

However this is probably taking parsing beyond the point of winning the argument. It's certainly poorly written and could be stated much more clearly.

Now I really feel better.

tex

Grisu wrote:Do I not recall from my CHL class if an establishment informs you that they are not allowing carry that this has not to be done in the 30.06 verbiage nor do they have to post it to be effective? Kind of like a trespass warning. Further more, by being a member, this clubs rule is that you shall not carry. In any case it is a violation of your membership terms but does it put you in a legal limbo as well?

There are two ways only, just two...verbal and written notification. All you have to remember us that if it's written it must have identical language to 30.06. Verbal can be anything. This site is written and is non-compliant.

They don't even stipulate a contractually enforceable membership policy!!! Telling a member what they believe is necessary is not stipulating a rule of entry or membership.

I'm in a business that depends on the use of precision language and this kind of non-speak irritates me.

There are two issues here, one is their right as a private club to regulate it's members and two is their right under state law to prevent entry with a handgun. In the first case, as I said, they have not stipulated a clear membership condition to its members and they have certainly not complied with 30.06 in its weak attempt to restrict entry into the building.
Now I feel better

Tex

Not to be snarky, but I'm not really interested that they " believe it's not necessary" to carry a firearm into Costco. That's nice. As worded that does not inform me that I can not carry as per 30.06. That simply informs me of what they believe is or is not necessary. In there effort to phrase it politely they do not communicate the prohibition as required by law.

Tex