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by cb1000rider
Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: May Employers fire Employees for Defending Themselves?
Replies: 36
Views: 8564

Re: May Employers fire Employees for Defending Themselves?

b322da wrote:
If I might borrow some words from Oldgringo, just above, I guess my point was to be sure that a member which becomes a "firee" knows that there have been many a case where "next come the lawyers" gives relief to a grossly offended employee, and that an employee-at-will should not assume that there is never a remedy for his or her being treated wrongly. There may not be, but there may be if effective assistance is sought.

You have shown yourself both here and elsewhere on the forum, time and again, to be both an honest and discerning commentator. I was reminded of this only this morning, when I read the thread about medical records. I want to compliment you on the assistance you rendered to other members of the form on that thread.
Jim,
Thanks. I'm always up for a rational and respectful conversation. I also admit to over-simplifying things. A person cannot be fired in Texas "for any reason" - that is certainly incorrect. My brain automatically skips the really dumb things that people have been fired for in the past, things to do with protected class...

And I mean no disrespect to your vocation - I assume you are an attorney. I'm reasonable enough to know that the law is *very* complicated.
by cb1000rider
Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:18 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: May Employers fire Employees for Defending Themselves?
Replies: 36
Views: 8564

Re: May Employers fire Employees for Defending Themselves?

Jim,
I appreciate the respectful rebuke.. Seriously.
How did I over state it? Obviously my viewpoint is too simplistic. A quick google, as you suggested produces:
At-will employment is a term used in U.S. labor law for contractual relationships in which an employee can be dismissed by an employer for any reason (that is, without having to establish "just cause" for termination), and without warning.
I simply stated that an employer can fire an employee for doing the right thing or wrong thing, as they see fit. Right or wrong is clearly subjective - at least as proven by this forum and certainly as shown in employment law. Stopping a theft without bodily harm might be morally right, but wrong per employer policy.

Perhaps I didn't include that at-will employment is limited to specific protections afforded under the law? IE - you can't fire me for my race or sexual orientation.
by cb1000rider
Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: May Employers fire Employees for Defending Themselves?
Replies: 36
Views: 8564

Re: May Employers fire Employees for Defending Themselves?

I remember this one:
Randalls in Round Rock, Texas fired a grocery store manager for chasing down and recovering a purse that was stolen in store:

http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news ... ews=839286" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regardless of the policy, it was a lot of bad press..

It just means that in Texas you can be fired for doing the wrong thing or fired for doing the right thing, as your employer sees fit.

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