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by ChillMickelson
Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:57 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Urgent: XDs recall...
Replies: 368
Views: 62872

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

ATDM wrote:
Shoot_First wrote: Mine was delivered at 9:58am on Sep 3rd and I think ATDM's and Teamless' also arrived about the same time. Unlike Sookandy, I have not received a return notice from SA. Teamless? ATDM?
Mine was delivered at 9:58 on September 3rd, too. The status has not changed as of yet, but there is a file on my XD-S due to the "slam fire" issue I experienced (you can read about the incident in the following thread: http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68869" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

So, SA has been in communication with me regarding this issue, and I expect to receive my XD-S later than other people, whose guns were received by SA on that day.

In addition, Springfield received more than 7,000 guns on that day, and, by the estimates, they are fixing 2,500 per week (hopefully, more than that now, as they hired more people since the estimate was first established). So, even pessimistically speaking, it will take almost 3 weeks to fix the guns they received on September 3rd.

The wait doesn't really bother me, it was SA's initial absence of communication that was the problem, which they have addressed recently. Not the end of the world, but a little disappointing. I am glad they course corrected and set up regular updates.
I think they owe you a new bed.
by ChillMickelson
Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:47 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Urgent: XDs recall...
Replies: 368
Views: 62872

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Excaliber wrote:
ChillMickelson wrote:This certainly looks like a fatal flaw:

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But the post was really about the "upgrade" as they are spinning it and not a fix (what it REALLY is).
This video, while interesting, is not the whole issue. I'm pretty sure that the folks who had the gun discharge on slide release or fire double or triple shots were not holding it by the bottom of the grip without depressing the grip safety.

It appears that a very complex interplay of parts, and perhaps manufacturing tolerances, is involved. Remember that Springfield sold hundreds of thousands of these before the issue turned up. It would appear that not all guns had the problem, but apparently there was no way to tell which ones did and which ones didn't. It's also possible that the issue only surfaced when several conditions came together in a certain way, in which case the gun may appear to function fine for quite a while - until it didn't.

I'm really curious to see a credible truly detailed analysis of what happens when these guns malfunction.
The video is saying a lot more than SA. They haven't really said much... But hey, we get an upgraded gun now.
by ChillMickelson
Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:57 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Urgent: XDs recall...
Replies: 368
Views: 62872

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

Shoot_First wrote:
ChillMickelson wrote:This certainly looks like a fatal flaw:

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But the post was really about the "upgrade" as they are spinning it and not a fix (what it REALLY is).

Seems to me that a fatal flaw would mean the pistol is dead, fini, cannot be fixed. So Chili, how do you define fatal flaw? I agree with you on the upgrade part.

Fatal flaw in the non-Greek sense would be a mistake that could result in a catastrophic breakdown. In this case... Seems quite clear that a discharge could be quite catastrophic and could easily cause serious injury or even death.
by ChillMickelson
Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:23 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Urgent: XDs recall...
Replies: 368
Views: 62872

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

This certainly looks like a fatal flaw:

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But the post was really about the "upgrade" as they are spinning it and not a fix (what it REALLY is).
by ChillMickelson
Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:12 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Urgent: XDs recall...
Replies: 368
Views: 62872

Re: Urgent: XDs recall...

I'm just not impressed with them calling the fatal flaw fix an "upgrade."

Bad PR

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