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by Cedar Park Dad
Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:25 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Texas Gun Owners Divided on Best Aaproach to Legalizing OC
Replies: 139
Views: 14616

Re: "Texas Gun Owners Divided on Best Aaproach to Legalizing

mamabearCali wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:Just for the record, this thread is not about how one feels about open carry. The topic was about how one feels about "in your face" tactics by a very small but very vocal minority of OC proponents. Somehow it is being twisted to discuss how one feels about OC and how prevalent it is or will be.

They are being pushed into making ridiculous in your face tactics due to the fact that they are dismissed by gun owners and CHLers on the whole. If they had not been dismissed as kooks and dissed by Internet memes as above, perhaps they would have been able to be more circumspect. People ignored, who desire the freedoms they have been promised, will tend towards more and more drastic action.

Is it wise? Probably not. But they have been patted on the head and told to sit down and shut it for years. So after being polite and getting no where they are trying a new tactic. Can you blame them? I don't.

Now is it smart to go this way, maybe not, but the liberals get their way much of the time by screaming their heads off.

Say what you like. They care about freedom. Even if their tactics are off, they are at least trying to effect change.
If you act like a bunch of kooks, you will be treated like a bunch of kooks.
How many marches have there been without carrying and having arrests?
How many write in campaign and other lobbying efforts?
The OC method of attempting to influence appropirate legislation is at best blurred, at worst incoherent.
by Cedar Park Dad
Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:48 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Texas Gun Owners Divided on Best Aaproach to Legalizing OC
Replies: 139
Views: 14616

Re: "Texas Gun Owners Divided on Best Aaproach to Legalizing

Oldgringo wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:
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It would be better IMO if TX and VA had carry laws like AZ or AK. Constitutional carry is very attractive to me. If you are legal to own you are legal to carry it however you wish. As far as being antagonistic and causing more 30.06 signs. I don't think we have anymore no gun signs than TX does. Truth be told I saw more 30.06 signs in my two weeks in San Antonio than I have seen in ten years in and around Richmond.

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There it is boys and girls, ladies and gentlemen. IOE, mamabearCali is spot on correct.

In our annual travels, we don't see any more "gun buster" signs in Oklahoma, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, the Dakotas and Arizona than we see 30.06 signs in Texas. Now then, what is the real problem? Maybe have statewide OC with metro preemption?
But the opposite happened in California.
I'd appreciate better results then anecdotes from small states who's aggregate population is less then Harris County.
by Cedar Park Dad
Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:24 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Texas Gun Owners Divided on Best Aaproach to Legalizing OC
Replies: 139
Views: 14616

Re: "Texas Gun Owners Divided on Best Aaproach to Legalizing

In short, CHL folk must trust OC folk not to be stupid... and OC folk must not show that trust to be misplaced. So far, we've all failed, CHL and OC alike.

Trust must be earned. The opposite has occurred.

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