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E.Marquez wrote:http://latest.com/2014/04/store-owner-s ... Outbrain_Q

Quanell X, an activist fighting racial profiling, says “This was a classic case of racial profiling in its most humiliating form. And something needs to be done about this.”

didn't they say the store owners were Asian??

Gotta love it when it comes down to a subjective opinion rather than an objective rule...

and I thought about not responding but my post count was at a bad number...lol

EEllis wrote:

RogueUSMC wrote:soooo, you are using something we DO understand to explain something that you believe we DON'T understand but then you have to explain to us how the thing we DO understand that you are using as an example isn't really the same as the thing that we DON'T understand...got it...I think...

Was there a point to anything you just said or was it entirely meant to poke fun at me? Is this somehow meant to encourage discussion? Because all it means to me is if someone post stuff people don't like they will get harassed and insulted. I've not been insulting, dismissive, or abusive in any of my post so why do you think you should be able to insult me?

No but it gets confusing when ya try to explain it. Someone asked "so a store employee can do a Terry search" and you responded "Why not?"...then later explained how it wouldn't be a Terry search. Then you compared walmart;s right to ask for a receipt to that of whether I can stop a guy from carrying my TV out of my house. Gotta admit that it's kinda muddying things. Pick a lane.

I really don't have anything against you, I really don't but it's kinda hard to debate your points when you points keep changing...and I love a good debate...lol

soooo, you are using something we DO understand to explain something that you believe we DON'T understand but then you have to explain to us how the thing we DO understand that you are using as an example isn't really the same as the thing that we DON'T understand...got it...I think...

EEllis wrote:

RogueUSMC wrote:I have been kinda watching this discussion from the sidelines...but...

Are you saying that Joe Schmukatelli at the Walmart has authority to put his hands on me?

Under the right circumstances of course they do. A store owner or their employees has as much right to protect their property as you do. Don't you have the right to stop someone walking out of your home with property that belongs to you?

OK...now you are just muddying the water. Big difference between walking out of my house with something that came from my home and a retail establishment with merchandise on the shelf available for purchase.

You, as a policeman has to have RS to detain me...you have to have PC for a search. Show me where Joe has authority that allows them to lay hands on my person.

I don't have a problem showing a receipt, but I am NOT going to wait in line to do it.

Waaaay back when I got out of the service, I worked loss prevention for a Walmart. They told us that, when we were going to call police about a shoplifter, we had to be able to articulate what the item was and where it was located. Other than that, we had to take the loss. Just checking for a receipt would not fit this bill.

I usually show a receipt but I am not going to wait in line to do so. If they call police in regards to me, they best be able to tell me what they figured I stole...and they best find it.

Just like asking to search a vehicle on a traffic stop. Their request is denied. If they press the issue, they have to be able to articulate what they expect to find. If they don't find it, they will have problems.

With reasonable suspicion, an LEO may detain me...with probable cause they may search. Joe Schmukatelli at the Walmart does not have any of this authority.

I have been kinda watching this discussion from the sidelines...but...

Are you saying that Joe Schmukatelli at the Walmart has authority to put his hands on me?