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by NcongruNt
Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12646

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

RiverRat wrote:I have to agree....... :iagree: .........my XD's and 1911's yes, cocked and ready. The LCP doesn't give me the same confidence level to carry it with one in the pipe.......plus I have aready dropped that sucker three times and only had it less than two weeks, and one of those was while trying to load the magazine and it bit me.

I know it's my fault for getting my finger in there, I know it's my fault for dropping it....but it won't be my fault for having one in the chamber for pocket carry and it going off when I drop it anytime in the near future. That's why I always carry an empty chamber under the hammer in my wheel guns. It's the same thing.

The only solution I have come up with is to get a pocket holster or gun wallet. Not too many people have shot themselves with a holstered gun.........not saying it's impossible......there is normally a fool for every challenge.

I haven't ever had any trouble like that with a full sized gun.
A pistol should be carried in some type of holster any way.

If I'm going to resort to using my LCP for a defensive situation, I darn well am not going to have time to work the slide.

As far as the manual is concerned, I'm more likely to believe that's legal speak. I read a manual once told me in the same page that I could be killed if I kept my gun loaded as well as that I could be killed if I kept my gun unloaded.

Here it is:
NcongruNt wrote:So I was reading through a Taurus manual, and found this lovely string of warnings:
WARNING:
Securing your firearm may inhibit access to it in a defense situation and
result in injury or death.

WARNING:
To prevent injury or death, it is imperative that you must keep your gun
unloaded, uncocked, and securely locked, with ammunition in a separate
location. In addition, take any other reasonable steps to limit the possibility o
theft, accident, or suicide.

WARNING:
Failure to properly secure a firearm may result in injury or death.
So if I secure my firearm, it may result in injury or death...
but to prevent injury or death, i must unload and secure my firearm...
and if i fail to properly secure my firearm, it may result in injury or death.

:headscratch

Wow.
Original thread:
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 23&t=13400

I'd recomment properly handling and holstering your pistol.
by NcongruNt
Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12646

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

I also noticed that he did not approach the issue of the possibility of need to draw one-handed.
by NcongruNt
Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:29 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12646

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

jimlongley wrote:
Venus Pax wrote:Always.
And all guns in my home remain loaded, unless they are being cleaned.
:iagree:

At least one of my 1911s, my bride's XD, DPMS A-15, Shotgun, Garand. Most of the rest of the guns remain unloaded, I figure if it can't be done with one or the other, it's probably time to just roll up in a big ball and die.
I don't have all of my guns loaded at home, but certainly the ones that are practical for self-defense. The Marlin Model 60 (.22 rifle) and the Mosin-Nagants aren't something I would use for SD. The .22 is fairly self-explanatory, and as I live in an apartment complex, there's too much liability in using the Russian rifles, as they'll penetrate even brick walls with relative ease. I have the shotty loaded up with 00 Buck at all times, and all of my pistols are ready for action (unless being cleaned, of course).

As far as a response to the OP, yes, I carry all my pistols with one in the pipe. My main carry is a Hi-Power, carried condition one - cocked and locked.
by NcongruNt
Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:47 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"
Replies: 103
Views: 12646

Re: Do you keep one in the "pipe?"

longtooth wrote:
iratollah wrote:Unless you're willing to train in Israeli style carry, of course you keep one in the pipe.

A friend, who is also a Krav Maga instructor, carries regularly but for various reasons, does not keep one in the chamber. But he's practiced enough that he can chamber one in a fraction of a second, says he can even rack the slide on an opponents face if he's grappling.
Ouch!!! if you are the opponant.
Yeah, just hope you don't get part of his face stuck in the ejector port. :shock:

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