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by atxscubasteve
Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:54 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Lifetime Fitness and Open Carry
Replies: 18
Views: 4158

Re: Lifetime Fitness and Open Carry

I guess I probably wouldn't have any luck going in open carrying. The guy at the front desk would just say that the gun isn't allowed and I would have to turn around and go back. However, if they don't update their 30.06 sign, I could technically go in CHLing because their contract neither legally bans me under, nor their invalid 30.06 sign. I guess I will just have to wait and see what happens when I walk in January 1st after my new years resolutions to lose weight and hit the gym.
by atxscubasteve
Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:20 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Lifetime Fitness and Open Carry
Replies: 18
Views: 4158

Lifetime Fitness and Open Carry

I currently have a membership to Lifetime Fitness here in South Austin. I have been a member since 2008; however, I have only had my CHL since 2013 but have been successfully carrying everywhere I am legally able to besides Lifetime, obviously. However, I have a question for those smarter than me, and a real explanation would be fantastic as well as sound advice.

Lifetime Fitness bans all weapons and guns from its property. At this gym in particular, they have the "Lifetime Fitness Bans Guns on These Premises" sign on the door as well as proper, and to code, 30.06 signage. Under the contract, I believe I signed something that agrees to the terms and conditions, one of which, is that lifetime bans guns and prohibits weapons...(i'm not sure the exact wordage), but I know the wordage is not the 30.06 language as it states here, " With incorrect language in that card, it doesn't have merit under Texas law.
“Written communication” means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written language identical
to the following: “Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by
holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun
law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun”
Obviously, I can't enter with that correct signage up; however, come January 1st, 2016 the signage must be
"Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with [of license to carry] a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code ([concealed] handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"
The signage has now changed, and according to the law, would it would now be legal to carry concealed because the sign would be invalid? The intention is there, but the sign is not to code. Also, Am i still covered legally because their actual contract doesn't have written those exact words? I understand too that if the owner or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides me oral notice, then I must leave as well.

After all this, if Lifetime doesn't put up a 30.07 sign, can I then open carry legally until someone tells me that I cant? Are they allowed to terminate my contract as well?

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