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Dave2 wrote:

Charlies.Contingency wrote:How many of us here go anywhere without our wallet on us? I feel naked without it, because I have my Id's, money, cards, insurance information...

I do, every time I go for a walk. I'll take just my DL and CHL with me if I'm carrying, but everything else typically stays at home.

That is all great and well but there is a subset of the population who doesn't carry ID as a countermeasure to law enforcement. Doesn't make it ok for the police to make assumptions based on not having ID but I would think that after seeing so many people who specifically refuse to carry ID because they are criminals, it may be almost impossible not to get a bit, lets just say suspicious.

Jaguar wrote:I think GC §411.205 should be changed to;

GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE. If a license holder is
carrying a handgun on or about the license holder’s person when a magistrate or
a peace officer lawfully demands that the license holder display identification, the license
holder shall display both the license holder’s driver’s license or identification
certificate issued by the department and the license holder’s handgun license.

The trouble with that is then certain people would want to argue about the legality of any demand. It's not like there is even a consequence anyway so I personally don't think any time should be wasted on worrying about it. The legislature has plenty of things they wont get done as is.

Texas_Blaze wrote:So if OC passes, it will be just fine for an officer to demand ID just for carry a pistol on the hip.

Unlikely but they won't have to tell you why they are asking anymore than they are required to tell you why you were stopped when pulled over driving a car. They would most likely need reasonable suspicion depending on the phrasing of the law. If by some chance a law was passed that did allow them to ID anyone open carrying I still doubt most cops would bother once they got used to OC.

OlBill wrote:I never liked that they can lie to us, but we're committing a crime if we lie.
my wife jogs. She got stopped to stand and deliver papers once. She's Latina. I tried to get her to point him out for about a week. She said she couldn't be sure and it didn't happen again.

Things are getting out of hand to my way of thinking. I blame the judicial branch.

It's a crime to give false info. It isn't a crime to lie to State or local cops just feds and you don't have to talk to them anyway. Besides in theory you are not lying to an individual when you lie to a cop. You are lying to an agent of the state, a public servant, who is conducting the people's business.

Also lets.not get to worked up and spend this to far around. The person in the video even said that he picked Houston because of the good nature of his contacts with the cops. Here he got a bad, or ignorant, officer. If you do see yourself as some kind of civil rights protester and that is the worst thing that happens to you then you are doing good.