I've read the bill/act and know it. It refers to the ability to leave a gun in the parking lot and not have action taken on you by your employer unless said employee is a school, oil/gas company, etc and given that the vehicle is owned by actor.
I'm on my iPad and unable to look up the policy definition of "company business" however it includes travel to the client. His would be considered under the previously posted policy and, if I'm not mistaken, would not be protected under the parking lot bill. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong -- I would love to be wrong!,,,
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- Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:49 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
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- Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:16 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
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Re: Signs for the CHLer
Thanks for the reply Rotten. I would ask that you go back and re-read my comment. I was not worried about legality of carrying -- I can legally carry in my office place since they do not provide a 30.06 notice. What my comment was in reference to was the fact that they can terminate me based upon carrying in the car because they have it as part of the policy.RottenApple wrote:First, don't ask, don't tell. If you ask, you are just setting yourself up for possible termination.
Second, read the parking lot bill. As long as your company doesn't meet one of the exceptions, they cannot legally prevent you from carrying to/from work and storing the firearm in your vehicle.
Remember, concealed means concealed.
Regarding the "Don't ask, don't tell," I am not carrying currently, there is no possible downside to asking in this case, and they won't be searching my car anyway to look for it in the future. Any way you cut it, I'm fired if they find it as it stands right now. I might as well ask and see if their purview changes.
- Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:32 am
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Re: Signs for the CHLer
Also, I just looked at our administrative policies at work and found the "Weapons-free Workplace" policy.
The bolded part is the section I have issue with. Fine, I understand I can lose my job if I carry into work, but I'm not ok with them telling me that leaving my EDC in the car in transport to the office or client would constitute termination. In my opinion (which isn't worth much), that's just bull. I plan on contacting HR and asking them about this one piece of verbiage to clarify their intentions..001 Introduction
[COMPANY] and its subsidiaries located in the U.S. and abroad (U.S. Firms) strictly prohibit weapons of any type, whether visible or concealed, at the workplace or at any U.S. Firms-sponsored event. Weapons include, but are not limited to: firearms, knives with blades more than three inches in length, any explosive materials, and any other dangerous or deadly substance or object that could be used to harass, intimidate, or injure another person.
As used in this policy the term "workplace" means all areas in which the U.S. Firms operate, including, without limitation, any U.S. Firms premises or worksite or client's place of business; U.S. Firms' or client vehicles, public or private means of transportation while engaged in firm business; U.S. Firms-owned or leased equipment, lockers, desks, workspace, and storage facilities.
This policy shall apply even if the owner has obtained the necessary licenses or the law permits.
.002 Violations and Reporting
If an individual observes or has knowledge of a violation of this policy, whether by personnel of the U.S. Firms or others, he or she has an obligation to promptly report such violation to the appropriate supervisor, the office managing partner or the office Human Resource director.
In any instance where an individual observes or has knowledge that an imminent threat to safety of persons or property exists because of an apparent violation of this policy, he or she should immediately contact building security or the police in the absence of security. Where criminal violations are involved or suspected, appropriate law enforcement agencies will be notified.
If a violation of this policy occurs, the U.S. Firms will take whatever action is appropriate under the circumstances, up to and including termination.
- Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:26 am
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Signs for the CHLer
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Re: Signs for the CHLer
Well it took me quite a bit of time, but I read over all 14 pages of this thread. The interesting thing that I have only seen pointed out once is the letters on glass. To me, this is not a contrasting background, especially if the letters are white and the tile or other flooring material in the background of the glass door is lighter in color. While I'm not sure if I would test the limits of an accurate sign outside of the contrasting color constraint, it also begs the question if a person would always see it and accidentally walk past it.
I also think another part of conspicuous is that the letters on the door don't run into other notices or warnings -- all automatic doors have warnings on them, a lot of which are in white. Thoughts?
I also think another part of conspicuous is that the letters on the door don't run into other notices or warnings -- all automatic doors have warnings on them, a lot of which are in white. Thoughts?