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- Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:44 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Carry at an Airport?
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- Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:43 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Carry at an Airport?
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Anygun, I'll make this as simple as I can.
If you had a 13 year old daughter traveling alone in the mix who was fully expecting you to be there when she got off an airplane into a situation she had never been in before, would you have taken the chance of being late or not there at all due to getting into a "right fight" with some dip wad with a little power? As a LEO friend of mine reminded me, "You can beat the wrap but you can't beat the ride!"
I previously stated my reason for my decision in this situation. My whole concept for carrying is to protect those on my watch and myself! To get into a superfluous hassle would have been counter productive to that end.
Sorry we don't agree on this or understand each other however your opinion on this matter is totally immaterial as I would do the same thing if confronted with the same set of circumstances. Thanks for your input.
If you had a 13 year old daughter traveling alone in the mix who was fully expecting you to be there when she got off an airplane into a situation she had never been in before, would you have taken the chance of being late or not there at all due to getting into a "right fight" with some dip wad with a little power? As a LEO friend of mine reminded me, "You can beat the wrap but you can't beat the ride!"
I previously stated my reason for my decision in this situation. My whole concept for carrying is to protect those on my watch and myself! To get into a superfluous hassle would have been counter productive to that end.
Sorry we don't agree on this or understand each other however your opinion on this matter is totally immaterial as I would do the same thing if confronted with the same set of circumstances. Thanks for your input.
- Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:06 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Carry at an Airport?
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- Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:39 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Carry at an Airport?
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Well, the long and short of it is this. Last night I called airport security and was told that not only was I not allowed to carry my gun, "regardless of CHL", in the airport or even on the premises, parking lot, etc.
I was told my vehicle was subject to "search and seizure" and if anything was found that was considered a threat it would be confiscated. An insinuation was made concerning arrest and I chose not to continue the conversation. I was getting kinda irritated about the guy's attitude. He claimed to be "a federal agent" and had total power in these situations.
Anyway I chose to leave my "expensive carry gun" behind. My wife and I both made note of the circumstance being that I had more reason to "carry" around an environment of an airport than I did going to the corner grocery. If there was ever a need to guard my family and myself around "strangers in transit",,,,,,well, you get the idea.
I had to go to the gate to get my daughter as it was very complicated for her to go from the gate to the baggage area and we didn't want her wandering around by herself. I forgot to mention she had broken her wrist while in Washington and it was in a cast. (For the record, it is long walk from the gate to the baggage area.)
Once I was in the airport, no gun, etc. I had to go through security. Guess what? I had forgotten my 2" blade Buck pocket knife that I have carried for 20 years. I was told I had the choice of either surrendering it to have it destroyed, mail it back to myself or return it to my vehicle. I opted to take it back to the truck. (For the record again, it is a long walk from the security area in Term "E" to the parking lot.)
I might add that these "federal agents" acted like they were on a mission or something. I can't believe people can be given a badge and a little authority and allow it to go to their heads like these guys!
Feeling more or less stripped of all dignity I chose to go get my daughter rather than gamble on what might happen if I argued with them about anything.
She made our connection, got the baggage and went home.
Now I am on a mission, myself. I am taking one of the cheap guns, making sure it is close to payday and my wife has access to "bail money" and make another trip to the airport. This time I will explain the law and our rights in Texas and demand to be treated in a respectable manner that is due me as an American Citizen as well as a Texan!
I chose to pick my battle and with my daughter's security in the mix this wasn't the time.
Let ya'll know when I get out.
I was told my vehicle was subject to "search and seizure" and if anything was found that was considered a threat it would be confiscated. An insinuation was made concerning arrest and I chose not to continue the conversation. I was getting kinda irritated about the guy's attitude. He claimed to be "a federal agent" and had total power in these situations.
Anyway I chose to leave my "expensive carry gun" behind. My wife and I both made note of the circumstance being that I had more reason to "carry" around an environment of an airport than I did going to the corner grocery. If there was ever a need to guard my family and myself around "strangers in transit",,,,,,well, you get the idea.
I had to go to the gate to get my daughter as it was very complicated for her to go from the gate to the baggage area and we didn't want her wandering around by herself. I forgot to mention she had broken her wrist while in Washington and it was in a cast. (For the record, it is long walk from the gate to the baggage area.)
Once I was in the airport, no gun, etc. I had to go through security. Guess what? I had forgotten my 2" blade Buck pocket knife that I have carried for 20 years. I was told I had the choice of either surrendering it to have it destroyed, mail it back to myself or return it to my vehicle. I opted to take it back to the truck. (For the record again, it is a long walk from the security area in Term "E" to the parking lot.)
I might add that these "federal agents" acted like they were on a mission or something. I can't believe people can be given a badge and a little authority and allow it to go to their heads like these guys!
Feeling more or less stripped of all dignity I chose to go get my daughter rather than gamble on what might happen if I argued with them about anything.
She made our connection, got the baggage and went home.
Now I am on a mission, myself. I am taking one of the cheap guns, making sure it is close to payday and my wife has access to "bail money" and make another trip to the airport. This time I will explain the law and our rights in Texas and demand to be treated in a respectable manner that is due me as an American Citizen as well as a Texan!
I chose to pick my battle and with my daughter's security in the mix this wasn't the time.
Let ya'll know when I get out.
- Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:38 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Carry at an Airport?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 9988
The possible trouble I might have is covered here. Yes, I was planning on going to meet her at the boarding area and surely will have to pass security. Even if I let my wife go to meet her and stay behind the security check going directly to the baggage pickup, I still don't know if the Terminal "E" is 30.06 posted or not. If so, it is a long trip back to the parking area.
The easy fix to this ordeal is to back Gov. Perry and get his new measure put into law that we can carry anywhere rather than having to take a lawyer with us everywhere we go!
The easy fix to this ordeal is to back Gov. Perry and get his new measure put into law that we can carry anywhere rather than having to take a lawyer with us everywhere we go!
- Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:39 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Carry at an Airport?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 9988
- Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:37 am
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Carry at an Airport?
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- Views: 9988
Carry at an Airport?
I searched and didn't find a specific post about this. Probably missed it.
Anyway, I am going to pick my daughter up at Bush Intercontinental outside of Houston. What are the rules at Airport Security. I will not be boarding the plane, just going to the waiting area for her to get off.
Will I encounter any problems? Is there a security check point before I get to the waiting area for Continental?
Should I just leave the gun in my truck?
Thanks.
Anyway, I am going to pick my daughter up at Bush Intercontinental outside of Houston. What are the rules at Airport Security. I will not be boarding the plane, just going to the waiting area for her to get off.
Will I encounter any problems? Is there a security check point before I get to the waiting area for Continental?
Should I just leave the gun in my truck?
Thanks.