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by K.Mooneyham
Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Violate Your Oath And Turn On American Citizens At Your Legal Peril, Gun-Grabbers
Replies: 66
Views: 15402

Re: Violate Your Oath And Turn On American Citizens At Your Legal Peril, Gun-Grabbers

The Annoyed Man wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:27 pm
crazy2medic wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:24 pm If the manufacturer's would stand as a industry, refuse all sales and repair parts to law enforcement, they could get the State of California to repeal this stupidity! But because for some makers their ox isn't being gored so they go along with this garbage!
But some do. When CA banned .50 BMG rifles, several police department SWAT teams had Barrett .50s out for repairs to the factory. Ronnie Barrett told them that he would not ship the repaired rifles back to their departments of ownership, because the California law didn’t make allowances for shipping .50 cals to PDs. He made the affected departments send a police officer to the factory to retrieve their repaired rifles. There’s a reason why Gen3 Glocks are the only ones left on the roster. Glock has abandoned the market. When those Gen3 guns drop off the roster, Glock's probably not going to try and renew those listings. They’re in the business of making new Gen4 and Gen5 guns. They’re not going to keep manufacturing Gen3s for a state that doesn’t really want them there. Plus, when it’s time for roster renewal, the Gen3 guns won’t qualify because they don’t offer microstamping. Heck, even revolvers have been dropped off the roster. Look at how many S&Ws and Sigs and Tauruses and Springfields and FNs have been dropped.

The state's goal is to eliminate handgun imports as much as possible, and they are succeeding.

Under the current state of the law there, if I were to temporarily travel to CA with my Gen 4 G19, I’d be legal so long as I had it stoked with CA-legal 10-round mags. But if I were to move back there (not bloody likely), I’d have to sell that gun before moving because I couldn’t bring it into the state on a permanent basis. OTH, so long as the Gen3s remain on the roster, I could trade my Gen4 for someone's Gen3 gun, and import that....so long as I only brought in 10-round mags for it. But once the Gen3s fall off the roster, I wouldn’t be able to bring ANY of my Glocks into the state if I was moving back there.

So effectively, California is not only slow-banning the import of virtually all handguns, but they are also discouraging the immigration of handgun owners from other states. For CA, it’s a win win situation. They get to get rid of guns, AND they get to filter out new residents who don’t fit their preferences.
Well, once all handguns can no longer be sold there, it should be a "utopian paradise", right? No more crimes with firearms, ever? All the children will hold hands and sing "The Internationale"!
by K.Mooneyham
Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Violate Your Oath And Turn On American Citizens At Your Legal Peril, Gun-Grabbers
Replies: 66
Views: 15402

Re: Violate Your Oath And Turn On American Citizens At Your Legal Peril, Gun-Grabbers

I think a few things get overlooked in this topic. One, the power of people to simply ignore things, for starters. Even in Europe, where most guns are illegal or heavily regulated, people retain firearms. And they do NOT have our history behind them, a history of personal ownership of firearms. Two, the capacity of police officers who don't really want to enforce something to simply not see the thing they are supposed to enforce. Third, the fact that state and local police just might not agree with a law of the type y'all are discussing (please refer to various sherrifs around the nation who have stated they won't waste resources enforcing new gun control laws). Finally, the complete inadequacy of the Federal government to obtain enough personnel willing and able to go forth and spend day after day confiscating firearms by whatever means, be it door-to-door or pulling over random people and searching their vehicles. Plus, the more draconian something like that turns, the more it will irritate people. I'm just a dumb mechanic, though, so what do I know.

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