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K5GU wrote:My logic section of the brain tells me a conference on HB 910 addressing one small (and unnecessary) amendment wouldn't take very long to complete.

It would if their intention is to kill the bill as I believe is the case.

gljjt wrote:

sugar land dave wrote:

gljjt wrote:

PBR wrote:Well looks like -- Appointed (05/27/2015) Phillips (Chair) | Burns | Geren | King, Phil | Nevárez (2 voted for it 3 against it)

Will be overseeing the committee for the House, when and where can you see who from the Senate will be there and when this committee will get started on this?

Phil King voted nay, but he supports OC. I am sure he will do everything he can to get OC moving in conference. In spite of his vote today, he is in the "us" camp. I think we should hold public anger until all is said and done. This thing is so close, let's don't throw a wrench in the gears. Contacting our reps in anger and threatening to vote for someone else next election probably would cause more harm than good. IMHO.

That's what the OCT guys did and we know how that turned out.....

I know Phil personally so my opinion of him isn't pure conjecture. Also, we should look at the long term track record of some of the reps being trashed. Throwing them out could be short sighted. There is a lot more that goes on behind the scenes and its not all negative. Equating historically strong RKBA reps to OCT isn't helpful. This isn't over.

With all due respect, & I mean that, if you know Phil personally maybe you could ask him why he felt it necessary to risk open carry not passing at all just to make this point about the amendment. Don't get me wrong, I am in agreement that the amendment is foolish but if that's what it took to get open carry passed then I would have bet the bullet and voted for it. I guess my question is is it really that unimportant to him? Just trying to get a handle on why he would put the status of open carry as a whole at such risk with so little time left.

Srnewby wrote:

ws03 wrote:Both SB11 and HB910 are not dead yet and I for one will keep hope until the last bell tolls. The legislative process is always a bit manic by it's nature, so don't let the drama make you feel like you should give up.

I am right there with you ws03. Color me naive if you must, but I will not give up hope on these two bills passing in some form until the last legislative deadline is passed (which is Sunday night at midnight). Lt. Gov. Patrick needs to get the Senate conferees appointed asap so the conference committee can get to work!

That's if you think Lt. Gov. Patrick really wants this. He was VERY quick to say the votes for OC just were not there after being elected. I think it might, sadly, be that he dangled that carrot in front of us to get us to vote for him but had no intention on actually seeing it done.

As an aside, Charles, after seeing this process my respect for you and your patience has sky-rocketed. I have no idea how you stand being around those petulant, egotistical children.