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Soccerdad1995 wrote:Does anyone have the current link to send your gun in under this settlement? The period to elect a cash payout has expired, but per a discussion I just had with Taurus customer service, the extended service warranty / replacement option is still open. Unfortunately, she was unable to give me a link to a working website where I could get info on sending in my gun.

K5GU wrote:

rotor wrote:

WinoVeritas wrote:

rotor wrote:......................................................
Human nature. When one expects one action to always occur and a different action occurs it puts an individual off guard. When off guard mistakes can happen. When a firearm does something not expected than mistakes can happen. It is not normal for a pistol to go into battery by inserting a loaded mag from the locked open position ( auto-forward) although it is reported in many handguns according to Google search. I am not concerned about slamfire as if that were a problem we would see it with normal slide closure. I am just concerned about the operator being taken off guard by an unplanned slide closure and not following normal safety routines if it happens. Almost always this happens with a slamming of the mag when in the process of doing other mind concentrating things. I like certainty when I deal with my firearms. That's the reason these Taurus handguns were recalled. They had the capability of discharging when dropped. I personally consider it a malfunction for your gun to go into battery like this.

You consider it a malfunction, I consider it an asset. Discussion for another thread.

Returning to battery when mag slapped in had nothing to do with Taurus recall nor had anything to do with gun firing when dropped. Bad design of safety mechanism did.

I was answering your question..."I would, though, like to hear an explanation of how a slide returning to battery in any matter is going to cause an ND, without the user having his finger on the trigger or defective pistol. Or how the forces are different between auto, slide release or sling shot return to battery. I can't see one iota of difference between the three nor does the recoil spring."

Perhaps it is due for another thread. I still consider this a malfunction. The gun was not designed to go into battery with a mag insertion.

Forgive me for stepping in but I have an additional comment. When this happened at the range, my startled grandson (18 yrs old) came close to dropping the gun (not good, especially with this handgun!). This is probably because while holding the gun in your strong hand, your using your weak hand to put the mag in. The mag is inserted and bottom-slapped with your weak hand, and the slide bangs into battery BEFORE your weak hand is established in the grip support position, and if you're not anticipating this, your strong hand could lose it's grip.

WinoVeritas wrote:

rotor wrote:......................................................
Human nature. When one expects one action to always occur and a different action occurs it puts an individual off guard. When off guard mistakes can happen. When a firearm does something not expected than mistakes can happen. It is not normal for a pistol to go into battery by inserting a loaded mag from the locked open position ( auto-forward) although it is reported in many handguns according to Google search. I am not concerned about slamfire as if that were a problem we would see it with normal slide closure. I am just concerned about the operator being taken off guard by an unplanned slide closure and not following normal safety routines if it happens. Almost always this happens with a slamming of the mag when in the process of doing other mind concentrating things. I like certainty when I deal with my firearms. That's the reason these Taurus handguns were recalled. They had the capability of discharging when dropped. I personally consider it a malfunction for your gun to go into battery like this.

You consider it a malfunction, I consider it an asset. Discussion for another thread.

Returning to battery when mag slapped in had nothing to do with Taurus recall nor had anything to do with gun firing when dropped. Bad design of safety mechanism did.

WinoVeritas wrote:

rotor wrote:...............................................................I personally think this is not a desirable feature. The purpose of a slide lock/release is to lock/release the slide. A google search shows that some firearms manual reveal this "may" happen if a magazine is slammed into the gun. Seems to me that a gun inadvertently going into battery is more likely to have a negligent discharge.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I would, though, like to hear an explanation of how a slide returning to battery in any matter is going to cause an ND, without the user having his finger on the trigger or defective pistol. Or how the forces are different between auto, slide release or sling shot return to battery. I can't see one iota of difference between the three nor does the recoil spring.

WinoVeritas wrote:

K5GU wrote:..........................................................Here's the defect I asked them about. Sometimes when the slide locks back after the last shot, and I put a new mag in, the slide will release when I tap the bottom of the new mag. It's a PT-111 9mm. I asked Taurus if i could send it in for that under the original warranty, that is when she said "No". Even though the defect has nothing to do with the class action to my knowledge. I think I understand their position on what they're calling the "Enhanced Warranty", which is part of the settlement, and doesn't go into effect until the appeals are done.

I consider the slide returning to battery when I slap in a new mag to be an asset, not a defect (nor does Taurus or any that I know). I have several pistols that do that (not all Taurus) and some not. Saves me the trouble of wear on my thumb releasing slide lock. LOL I don't sling shot except on rare occasions.

Would be better to say you're not ejecting, not returning to battery, having multiple jambs or light strikes - something that WOULD be a defect / problem.

WinoVeritas wrote:As posted earlier in this thread, returned three Mil Pro's Aug 4, 2015 (1-PT111SS & 1 ea. - PT140Blk & SS). Received call from FFL 2/16 that he had received one pistol for me. Said he had had it since 2/11, but Taurus placed no paperwork with shipment and he was unable to get thru on phone until 2/16 to determine who it belonged to. I picked up the replacement for the PT140 Blk. - a new PT140 Mil G2, which thankfully will use same magazine as the old Mil Pro so my spare mags don't go to waste. 6.5 months to get 1/3 of replacement filled.

I got home and immediately went on line to Taurus chat to check the status of the two remaining pistols (both w/SS slide) and was told they were still on backorder and no time frame. So more waiting.

Haven't been to range as yet, but so far impressed with the G2 as far as feel and ease of dis-assembly, albeit, I still prefer the take down pin. Fully loaded mags (with LuLa help) with SnapCaps and have left that way until I get to range.

Taurus is to reimburse for the FFL transfer fee I faxed copy of SO/SN of old and new along with copy of invoice from FFL along with my contact and shipping info. Taurus said this could be faxed to 305-624-1126 or 786-441-2108 to obtain refund of fee.

WinoVeritas wrote:Call from Taurus USA today saying I would be receiving three new Millennium G2 pistols to replace the Mil Pro's I sent in (2-.40 & 1-9MM). Wanted my FFL to send his info referencing the SO#'s. Taurus to pay shipping and will reimburse FFL fees.

PBR wrote:

rotor wrote:

PBR wrote:what ever happened with this to the guys who sent theirs in?

Mine is still at Taurus. They said 6 weeks.

so they are repairing it or just unknown still?

PBR wrote:what ever happened with this to the guys who sent theirs in?