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RX8er wrote:

JP171 wrote:

EEllis wrote:

JP171 wrote:the alley theatre can post away, i'll walk right past it, its a city owned building!

Alley theater isn't city owned, it was privately built by a non-profit opening in 68 and is still operated and owned by the same non-profit. For those who don't know the Alley is a live theater with 2 stages in downtown Houston. The notice on the tickets is legally sufficient for a 30.06 warning. You will be risking arrest if you carry in the venue.

yes its CITY owned, maintained and supported same as the wortham center, miller outdoor theatre and a host of others


State Class Code Land Use Code Building Class Total Units
XV -- Other Exempt (Government) 4680 -- Cultural Facility E 0
Land Area Building Area Net Rentable Area Neighborhood Market Area Map Facet Key Map®
37,241 SF 109,437 0 5900 5001 -- Central Business District 5457A 493L

I don't know but am curious so....

I called and the lady that answered the phone said that the non profit had an endowment for the land and collected money from Houston residents in the 60's. They are a tax exempt Cultural Facility and that she was unsure if it was owned by the Houston or not. She "has a feeling" that it is owned by the Alley Theatre and not the city. She said that if you are city owned, there are certain things you have to offer and thye do not. She took my name and phone number and will call me back.

I heard back. It is NOT a city owned property. Anyone with any questions should contact Dean Gladden of the Alley. They were curious why I was asking but I gave them no reason other than a research project on city owned arts facilities.

JP171 wrote:

EEllis wrote:

JP171 wrote:the alley theatre can post away, i'll walk right past it, its a city owned building!

Alley theater isn't city owned, it was privately built by a non-profit opening in 68 and is still operated and owned by the same non-profit. For those who don't know the Alley is a live theater with 2 stages in downtown Houston. The notice on the tickets is legally sufficient for a 30.06 warning. You will be risking arrest if you carry in the venue.

yes its CITY owned, maintained and supported same as the wortham center, miller outdoor theatre and a host of others


State Class Code Land Use Code Building Class Total Units
XV -- Other Exempt (Government) 4680 -- Cultural Facility E 0
Land Area Building Area Net Rentable Area Neighborhood Market Area Map Facet Key Map®
37,241 SF 109,437 0 5900 5001 -- Central Business District 5457A 493L

I don't know but am curious so....

I called and the lady that answered the phone said that the non profit had an endowment for the land and collected money from Houston residents in the 60's. They are a tax exempt Cultural Facility and that she was unsure if it was owned by the Houston or not. She "has a feeling" that it is owned by the Alley Theatre and not the city. She said that if you are city owned, there are certain things you have to offer and thye do not. She took my name and phone number and will call me back.

Here is what they say on their website. A little outdated:

Firearms are prohibited
The Texas State Legislature, in 1995 passed Senate Bill 60, which has been codified as a State law, VTCS art. 4413 (29ee). It permits Texas citizens who have obtained the proper license to carry concealed firearms. The same law (section 32) explicitly grants private employers in the State the right to prohibit their employees and visitors from possessing firearms on the employer's premises.

With this notification, the Alley Theatre is informing you that it prohibits firearms on its premises, and reserves the right to search persons, parcels and vehicles on same. This policy applies to all employees, patrons and visitors to the facility.

OP, have you made a report on http://www.texas3006.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;? Might be a good idea.

jmra wrote:I have heard the argument made that the ticket is an agreement and by accepting the ticket and entering the theater you are accepting the terms of the agreement.
Not saying I agree with the argument - just that I have heard the argument made.
I would also point out that 30.06 says "Written communication" means:...a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following:..."
If you walk into an establishment and are handed a card with the correct language but toss it before reading it, have you received notice? According to the code I think you have. I believe the same standard would apply to the ticket. Buyer beware.

I have heard this as well. But when I buy a ticket, I am agreeing not to sue or to release my image for their use, not that I have been notified I could be arrested? I don't disagree this could be considered notice and I don't ever want to be a test case for it either. Also, when you buy those types of ticket generally don't you sign or have to agree to something before getting the tickets. I remember the last tickets I got for the Circ de Soleil, I had to agree to a hundred things before I could type in my CC info. I just can't see how getting the print on the back of a ticket wold be considered notice. If this was the case, then many more folks skip hte big ugly sign and just hand out little advert flyers when you walk in the doors with the notice somewhere hidden.

The last time my wife and I went to the movies, I dropped her at the front, she went and got the tickets and I don't think I ever even touched one of them.

I'm just about the whole thing. I would love to hear Chas give an unofficial opinion about it all.

That's a good one but I'm not sure if that would be effective notice. Do they make you sign the back of the ticket? How do they know someone has read the ticket? Is it on the whole ticket or the half that you get back?

I can't tell you if I've ever read a movie theater ticket.

I get the ticket, hold them folded in between my fingers with a Coke and Popcorn in the other hand. Walk up to the ticket kid, takes it, and then the other half it goes in to shirt pocket or opposite pocket that has contraband candy from Neighbor Market.