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by misterlarry
Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:39 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Question about use of lethal force when confronted by strangers
Replies: 38
Views: 7040

Re: Question about use of lethal force when confronted by strangers

VMI77 wrote:
misterlarry wrote:I would never shoot anyone over theft of property, however, I have no problem properly defending myself against the stated or implied threat of what will happen to me if I do not surrender my property to a thief.
I'm quoting you but I'm really asking this of everyone saying they will never shoot someone over the theft of property....I get it if the guy snatched something and his running off with it, but how do you know that someone with a knife or gun isn't going to stab or shoot you even if you hand over your property? Are you just going to play the odds and assume if you hand it over they won't beat you over the head, stab you, or shoot you? If they have a gun are you just going to trust their trigger discipline? And if they're not armed why would you surrender your property?

I don't see a robbery as being about "property." If you weren't being threatened with violence you'd have no reason to hand over any property. If someone is threatening you with violence unless you hand over your property then saying you'll "never" shoot anyone over theft of property seems tantamount to saying you're going to trust their goodwill not to carry out the threatened violence if you comply. Granted, their are situations where you have to weigh the odds of successful resistance against the odds your attacker will depart without violence once he has your property, but there's a lot of room between there and "never."
You might be doing a better job of making the point that I was trying to make. Property can be replaced and is no reason for me to possibly take another person's life. In my opinion though, defending myself or my loved ones against a robbery is not in fact about the property at all but the threat of physical harm that is integral to the unlawful act itself. If someone has already snatched something and is running away, I may in fact draw my pistol (with my head on a swivel), but if I do not feel that my safety is being threatened, I do not believe in good conscience that I could bring myself to shoot someone simply over money when no physical threat is present. I do not believe that I would hand over my property and submit to the threat of physical violence unless it was as a decoy to gain a tactical advantage in bringing my pistol to bear.
by misterlarry
Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:41 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Question about use of lethal force when confronted by strangers
Replies: 38
Views: 7040

Re: Question about use of lethal force when confronted by strangers

I would never shoot anyone over theft of property, however, I have no problem properly defending myself against the stated or implied threat of what will happen to me if I do not surrender my property to a thief.

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